This pisses me off..cant keep a job on MD Pot

I have a very serious tech job and I am a pain sufferer (3 back surgeries) and would never go to work stoned, however do you keep jobs and have pot in your systems ? Id love to but here in the US you cant without problems. Even with the license you can be fired. Thats bullshit since I can have any drug (Vicodine,Percocet,Morphine, Methadone,Fentynol, Oxycodone0 Oxycontin..ect) (lightyears more dangerous than pot)and keep my job cause it cant be reported by a drug tester since it is protected by medical privacy laws with a script and I can drink and eat pills till my liver falls out but i cant come home and smoke a few bongs ? It sucks. If I could Id throw the booze and pills away which are killing me and enjoy a little bud here and there. What the fuck???? Im killing my liver when a little weed could solve everything. Im 50 god damn pounds overweight cause of the fucking things. Pain relief..a good buzz..and a longer life. And of course I would never go to work stoned. I have several friends on SSI who get their dope and were able to stop the pills cause they got to have their pot. So now I have to support these guys while I continue to kill myself when I should be able to have the same medical treatment and keep my job if I medicate responsibly. They can sit on their ass and smoke and have tax dollars support them but I cant work..come home and get pot relief ???And if I do smoke my pain doc will cut me off from the narcs. Its so fucking twisted. Anyone catch my drift ? I am mainly in pain after work and at bedtime. I can make it through the workday barely and would love some relief once im home. And I cant sleep till I've eaten 4-5 Narcos and drank about 12 beers when 3 bongs and a few twinkies would do the trick. But no..I do the forementioned and stay up till 6AM (I work 2nd shift) and sleep till I have to get up, shower and work hence I have no life either.

What do ya think ???

Another thing. I read in the news today that some medical pot users are even loosing their kids !!!!
Thats bullshit. Id much rather leave my kids if I had any with someone who just smoked a little weed than some numbnuts on percocet and vodka....arghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Im very angry about this shit and once pot is legal and it will be someday soon we will still have to go through years of legal mumbo jumbo bullshit with the family courts and employers before it gets the same respect and fredom as ALCOHOL !!! I dont think I have to go through how much worse Alcohol is than weed with you guys...you know Im sure...

Thanks for letting me rant and thanks for your responses and reading. For gods sake I had to turn to Salvia!!!!! LOL and Im afraid to smoke a big hit of that and it is legal and seems to be stalling where it sits legaly thank god !!

 

I think some pot smokers act a little bit to paranoid..

 

I dont smoke it !! If you mean me.

1) My employer would fire me if I did
2) My pain doc would cut me off from the narcs if cought

Not worth it. I make a awsome buck and have the best job one could have nowadays period ~!

 

Move to a cooler state. Problem solved

 

That still wouldnt solve the problem ... It is in california the most pot liberal state that much of the fireing and kid taking is happening unless you have a job where the employer dont care. Not possible in my field. Medical pot smokers should be protected across the board as long as they dont work stoned...It should be much like alcohol it should just be legal period. Thats where I stand. My field is federaly controlled, so only federal law would protect me like it does people on narcs since the FDA is federal.

 

Then move to a cooler field... mr. 'very serious tech job'

 

Just stop man !! Please. I'm trying to be serious here. In todays economy it isn't that easy. Especially for a HS dropout with a GED like me. (didnt like the abuse at home so I left and got a full time job in 11th grade) I am very lucky to have landed an (entry level) job I have where I am trained and certified by the state. It is hard to go from factory guy which I was , and making good money to tech guy I am now . There is no factory jobs that pay and have the benifits and recessionproffness the job I have does. Think of the last thing besides the Firemen and Police men and Military that will ever close..even if the education system collapses. Whats left and you might guess what field Im in and there is 1000s of different jobs within that too. With all due respect I will ignore any further responses from you. Take care

 

sorry you don't like what I'm sayin' :sifone::seeya:

 

I live in CA and lost my last job because I occasionally did some deliveries and got random tested according to DOT regulations. After the lab submitted the results I was called by the labs MRO (medical review officer) and she asked if I had any medical reason and prescription for med marijuana. She said that if I did then the lab was required by law to report a negative test result to my employer. It is protected under the HIPPA laws governing the release of medical information.
I wish I did have a scrip for it, I would still have my job if I did.
You need to check the laws in your state and see how the labs handle positives for medical users with a legit scrip. The HIPPA laws are federal and you would most likely be protected, unless you are doing work as a Federal employee or sub-contractee for the federal government.
Considering you are already employed and all there is really no reason why your employer would ever even have to know anything if you were prescribed it. Get a new Dr. that is ok with prescribing marijuana and learn the laws.
I challenged my employer because when I investigated I learned that they violated the DOT guidelines and did not use the right forms for the test. I called the DOT and they said all the employer had to do in my case was fill out paperwork stating they used the wrong forms and it would stand , so I was still out of luck. But I did know reams more about the laws governing workplace drug screening than the HR person did, she didn't like that I made her look like a fool, but fuck her if she doesn't know the laws that are part of her job.
Check it out further, it may not be as bad as you think.

 

im from Potssylvania , so i dont know what the problem is... If they demonize marijuana I demonize the other shit they are stuff their faces with.. never had a problem all my life with drug test or employment..

 

Thats because it's really hard for a squirrel to pee in those cups, so they just give you a pass.

 

Its all good dude...you can say what you want and I wont be against you. I just want some more serious expierience filled responses.

Float on

 

Learn the laws well enough to be able to school others about them is the first step.

 

Thankyou very much. I did not realize HIPPA protected md pot users. That is awsome to know because as soon as it is legal in NY where I am. Im gonna get some. I have just read so many horror stories where employers find out pot is in use ( medicaly) and they get fired. I am doing the best i could ever do and dont want to go back to factories or retail.I will wait for more responses and may change my mind. Thanks again !!! Where I work HIPPA is God. Think "House". Remember...like I said "I would never go to work Under the influence" But it would be nice to have some relief once I get home.

 

seriously... from my experience... until you're dead there is always an option: i.e. what PB_Smith said, changing jobs, moving, etc.... best of luck to ya

 

HIPPA doesn't technically protect med pot users, but it protects the release of your medical information. So if you have a doctors scrip for it and the testing lab reveals the results.....
LAWSUIT
That is the last thing they want

Another interesting note. There are only two main companies/labs licensed by the feds to process workplace samples and those same companies ALSO promote and develope the workplace drug screening programs that are sold to employers. Can you say illegal conflict of interest?

another side note:The cost of a drug screen is about $200, so it is expensive for employers to do. It is always the last step along with background check in the hireing process. So if you are looking for work and you get to the point that they want you to pee in a cup, then you pretty much have the job, as long as it comes back clean.

 

Well it still isnt legal for pain in NY yet as far as I know. Though some people say it is. Otherwise the one time I did slip and smoke my Dr probably would have just said"Ya want some bud"..LOL I wish. Ive never thought to ask my doctor since there was such a fuss when I did smoke and i was told..any more pot (even though it was neg since it was a few hits) no more Hydrocodone or anything. Now anyone with a script for narcs has to go the pain doc every month (no refills anymore) here in ny. I'll ask her next time.

Thankyou again for your valuable info.

 

I bet if you checked in the state of NY, you would find somewhere, some doctor that would prescribe it for you...especially since you describe legitimately being able to get prescription pain killers (which ARE worse, you are right).
At least having a prescription, would give you a leg to stand on if you were to be tested.
In SC, I have done a bit of research and found that even tho' it is not available in my town, there is a town here in which there is a doctor that does prescribe marijuana for pain - which I, too, deal with. Only I like pot, too. not just for pain

 

so your Dr. randomly piss tests you for pot?
does your job do random drug testing?

 

Have you ever thought about simply substituting your piss for synthetic urine or a clean piss sample? That way you could smoke, stay on your pain meds if you want (though I can't see why if you dislike them that much), and keep your tech job.

Also, not suggesting going to work stoned to just anyone, but it really isn't any different than going to work sober for many people. I have been at the same job for 4 years and I can count the number of sober days I've been there with just two hands, and most of those came from the 1st year when I was more of an occasional toker.

Ummm isn't California voting to make personal use of marijuana legal for those 21+ in November? Pretty sure you would have no worries then bro . Once California goes you can be sure that other states will follow suit as well :sifone:, as they don't want California to make all that money by themselves