Hydromorphone

I heard that this is some good stuff, but im always hearing from people that do this stuff mostly half of them are addicted to it say to either snort it or slam it, i was planning just on popping it cause my guy has them in pill form .5mg and 1mg but the addicts gets theres in powder wtf is there a difference my guy is selling the pills for 10 and 20 bucks but hes going to give me a .5mg sample im planning on just pain and simple pop it what do you guys think i should take it and are the prices fair i never done this stuff before thanks

 

everyones gonna tell ya to shoot it, but if you're not down with needles then atleast rail it. the oral BA is terrible and i highly doubt you'd feel anything even with no tolerance.

 

whats a good oral dose cause im a do it orally ten later on i migth slam it idk

 

well despite the fact that you've given no indication as to what your tolerance is like, i can't recommend an oral dose. there pretty much useless that way anyway.

you're gonna go from poppin a pill and then maybe slam it later? haha good luck with that...you seem to know what you're doin....

 

What is your tolerance for opiates? By saying hydromorphone do you mean dilaudid or something similar? I am in strong agreement with bluez snooze. Some people just aren't down for slamming stuff which is fully understandable. However if you do not plan on slamming it, your only other option really is railing it ( snorting).

The prices you are been charges seem to be kind of steep for that mg pill. But that depends on the availability in your area and what you are willing to pay.

Swim says that you should rail at least two of the 1mg pills if you have lttle to no tolerance, but remember, do not follow anyonr elses dosage advice unless you know your body first. Please respond with what kind of tolerance you have, if any, and then myself and other members of the forums can help you with you choice.

 

i wouldnt slam it, but i wouldnt pop it either, snorting it for me is the best way, but i only have 4mg yellow pills, so i gotta sniff quite a bit, which is why ive been mainly focused on o.c's lately.

it doesnt taste bitter at all and its an enjoyable buzz, it doesnt really just grab you and fuck you up, but do enough youll nod out-feel good.

 

oh yeah like buddy above said, try it at your own pace, sniff 2 then go from there if you have to, ive always told people with little/no tolerance to find it out for yourself, you cant really follow anybody elses guidelines because its different for everyone, i can sniff a pile full at once then one of my buddies does 2 or 3 and there higher then i am.

 

Yeah you can never follow someone else dosage, especially if we don't even know your tolerance. Baby steps. You gotta crawl before you walk or else you will be crawling unintentionally.

 

I have little experience with opiates, dilaudid being the one exception. The lucid dreams and images were spectacular. The relief from panic attacks and emotional pain was god-like. It was the ultimate relief valve to have when needed. Nice to know such a thing even exists. But I also associate that drug with what came later when I quit... strong anxiety, temperature flashes, sweating, chills, weakness, jitters, shivering, which for me came on far more quickly than anyone says is normal even with daily use. I would thus personally never again use that substance more than rarely even if I had access to it now. Be careful out there.

 

Yeah all the symptoms you listed sound just like WD to me.

How long before you started having these symptoms? if you already listed it, my apologies, i must have missed it. I have hard some hard WD's in as little as 24-36 hours but it was after a hard binge and i associated it with a harsh come down. OC's were some of the quickest and worse WD symptoms.:coffee:

 

I guess I started using about "this week last year" in fact, right after the death of a loved one (wife, cancer). It was maybe 4-5 months later that I realized what was going on with me. I enlisted help of family, destroyed what little was left of my stash, and sweated it out for a few days with their loving support.

Until then, I honestly thought of it as a VERY good cure for "stress" which I thought at first was the cause of these weird symptoms. Taking the "medicine" (sniff sniff) relieved the stress, it seemed. Yeah, I know, great laughter, but that's honestly how it felt. I was careful to never drive or go to work while using, and so the anxiety and temperature flashes came on at weird times.

It's weird now... but often the high from the drug didn't feel like a high, it just felt normal because I'd been in emotional stress/terror for so long up to that point. Which was fine. In retrospect, I can't even be sure the whole experience wasn't exactly what I needed at that time. I guess if I had it to do over again I'd do much the same. Life is so strange when you're alive...
I'm rambling...

 

I am sorry to hear about the passing of your wife, no one should have to go through that.

I know what you mean,, when you are emotionally in a runt and life is cruel you no longe get "high" or so you think. You no longer feel the euphoria, instead you feel "normal".

What was once normal to you becomes a distant memory, nothing feels like it once did.
Becareful,, when you get to this point is when you can make your fatal judgement calls.
Let me ask you this,, did you give yourself anytime to deal with the lost of your wife or did you binge right after it happened?
Your symptoms can be a mixture of WD but what is making it hard to deal with is reallity, the reallity that your wife is no longer here physicaly is dawning on you. Since you have given yourself zero time to properly deal with your emotions means that the minute you become sober is the minute you start grieving, dealing with the wave of emotions. Ranted that one of the main wd symptoms is being emotionally unstable.

Take some time to deal with this or you could end up running yourself to the ground.

Good luck and I hope that everything works out for you man. I do not wish this upon my own enemies. I hope that some of this makes some amount of sense to you.

 

I am sorry to hear about the passing of your wife, no one should have to go through that.

I know what you mean,, when you are emotionally in a runt and life is cruel you no longe get "high" or so you think. You no longer feel the euphoria, instead you feel "normal".

What was once normal to you becomes a distant memory, nothing feels like it once did.
Becareful,, when you get to this point is when you can make your fatal judgement calls.
Let me ask you this,, did you give yourself anytime to deal with the lost of your wife or did you binge right after it happened?
Your symptoms can be a mixture of WD but what is making it hard to deal with is reallity, the reallity that your wife is no longer here physicaly is dawning on you. Since you have given yourself zero time to properly deal with your emotions means that the minute you become sober is the minute you start grieving, dealing with the wave of emotions. Ranted that one of the main wd symptoms is being emotionally unstable.

Take some time to deal with this or you could end up running yourself to the ground.

Good luck and I hope that everything works out for you man. I do not wish this upon my own enemies. I hope that some of this makes some amount of sense to you.

 

i hardly ever take opiates. i have eaten hydrocodone maybe 10 or so times in my life, stupidly snorted them once or twice. i've sniffed oxy once. and ate hydromorphone twice.

once i took one pill (maybe a half mg, but i'm not sure) and felt kinda drunk. 2nd time i took two and was fucked up. i was glued to my recliner and felt like i had drank 8 beers in one gulp, but GOOD. i guess the way opiates make you feel

 

Let me ask you this,, did you give yourself anytime to deal with the lost of your wife or did you binge right after it happened?

Thanks for the kind and obviously sincere words. Well, she had been sick with cancer, and we'd been through so much... basically I was already grieving hard from day one. After she passed, I was really sure I was fine- I'd been in total fear/terror for so long that when it was over it was almost a relief. When I started abusing, I didn't even take it daily- almost daily, though, and soon it was daily. But at no point did I stay high all or even most of the time. I never drove or went to work while affected by that stuff. If you're really curious I did some journals back then here on this site, not hard to find I'm sure.

A few weeks ago I went alone to a music festival that I'd last attended with my wife; it was a very very good and healing experience. I'm going to the national rainbow gathering for just a few days with my daughter, which will be very good for both of us.

Thanks for the kind words again, and nice to meet you Jay5376.

 

Just curious, SunLion: Which festival did you hit? I've always thought the two things that tap our memories the best are smells, and music. Festivals have both, so I bet that was a great way to remember your wife. Hope it was a good time.

 

I went to a bluegrass festival called Appalachian Uprising; it's in southern Ohio, very close to where Ohio, Kentucky, and West Virginia meet. There were tons of great acts, but the best were Drew Emmitt Band, Cadillac Sky, and Sam Bush. Perfect mix of traditional bluegrass and newgrass.

Awkwardness seemed to prevail as I found a camping spot and settled in. I haven't been camping without my wife since 1981, and it turned out I didn't even have the right tent poles! Someone offered me a loaner tent, but I decided that my air mattress was fine outside if it didn't rain, and if it did, I could always crawl into the car.

Within a few hours of arrival, I'd made a few friends, found all my favorite vices, was melting in the heat but had goosebumps from the music.

The peak for me was the last night, Sam Bush onstage, and it was pure awesomeness. It seemed like anytime I felt the slightest bit alone, it seemed, someone I'd met earlier that day would happen by and stop and talk.

The last time me and my sweetheart camped together, right before she was diagnosed, after dark we sat in the tent, smoked a bunch of weed, letting our eyes adjust to near total darkness. Then we sat in the doorway of the tent watching the explosions of light- lightning bugs. Spec fuckin tacular. I kinda wondered if the sight of them now would be a bad reminder. But no- I heard her voice in my mind saying "stop being goofy and enjoy it!" She was the kewlest...

 

bhahaha..... lol

 

I've never had any really good experiences with dilaudid pills. After my foot surgery though they gave me IV dilaudid and you pretty much have to brace yourself to keep from passing out. Strong strong stuff in solution form.

 

Yeah, dillies give a good rush IV, but really no opie buzz afterwards. I've been thinkin about throwin in a bag or two of dope with my dillies next time to see if I can be comfortably numb (love that song) after the dilly rush wears off. Dont go tryin that just cause I mentioned it, I take responsibility for my actions, no one elses.