Let's make the US a real democracy.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by drew5147, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Do away with elections and hold a lottery each year for a compulsory one-year term in a government office. Every citizen is is eligible to serve. We could just throw our current politicians in jail.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    You may be onto something there.

    The advantages are that with only a one year term it will be far easier to remember why the other person did not live up to expectations.

    Finally some politicians who deserve to be incarcerated just may be.

    By using the word lottery as opposed to voting you probably will have a far better turn out.

    Having only a one year term is the perfect reason why there is not time to address any issues that at least sounds as if it is plausible and credible.

    The only thing that would not change is that every citizen is eligible to serve now, not that it has helped. Under a lottery system that might change.

    If this model works, I am going to start one here. :)
     
  3. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Its just an idea now, I just find it extremely ironic that we call this a democracy, when nothing really could be further from the truth.
     
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    i looked outside.. its the same it was when i looked out 20yrs ago. nothing has changed, the crackhead have gotten a little skinnier.. and the strippers tits are sagging, thats about all..
     
  5. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    You really don't see all the problems that would arise from putting some random guy in the White House for a year and letting him run the country?
     
  6. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    Who says we would need an executive branch?
     
  7. TapdanceThroughTheBakery

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    To maintain this system safely (making sure no one ruins the country), a lot of discretion would be necessary, leaving room for the system to become one man or group deciding who's fit and unfit to rule. When the founding fathers created the legal system, it was just after a skin-of-our-teeth war; there were no millionaires. Who could have seen that changing so drastically? Plus there weren't really 'campaigns;' a man stated his opinions on issues and they held a vote. Everything now, though, is run by money. The richest man can manipulate the most people to put on the biggest smoke-and-mirrors show. That's the problem to address: millionaires ruling America.
     
  8. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    it's funny, because in the ~7 years that i've really understood politics that's about all i've seen happen :cool:

    it's fucked up, because people tend to lean more in the direction of beliefs than opinions. :eek:
     
  9. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    Nah, all decisions should be made by a Gorilla tweaked out on PCP, , LSD, and Crystal Meth who just came out of a terrible Salvia Breakthrough.

    I don't know how it would work, but wouldn't that shit be fucking awesome?
     
  10. autumnbreeze

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    America was -never- a true democracy. "...And to the Republic, for which it stands...". When the founding fathers created the political system, it was very clearly and intentionally an oligarchic republic. With a very small minority of the populations considered 'citizens', particularly the land-owning wealthy elite. They who all basically knew one another created a system where the would vote amongst themselves for who would represent them, who would make decisions in their interests. With very powerful local/state governments compared to national, and very powerful legislative compared to executive branches, aside from in times of extreme emergency.

    The country has -always- been run exclusively by the wealthy elite. At some point along the line, the vote opened up for more and more individuals. But by then, wealth was already gaining control of the media. With so many voters, no longer part of as singular insular social group, the media became all important in the election process. There were some false starts, a few snafus along the way, a few hiccups where the interests of the elite were subverted by the forces of the groundswell, but many of the bugs have been worked out. The propaganda machine is now a highly robust system, capable of handling most challenges.

    In order to subvert such a system, an entirely new method must be devised. What form this will take is unknown. It seems at current, the groundswell is at rest, the system is readjusting to all the turmoil and upheaval of the last century before beginning anew the endless process of revolution. Such rest periods seem healthy, and normal to me, and to be expected.

    I see a rise in activity very likely to occur again soon though. Between the economic crash, and the greatest environmental disaster in human history, with endless aimless war and continuously rising wealth gaps, we're reaching an untenable circumstance. I see a rising return to social consciousness, to communal awareness, a groundswell energy arising. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next.
     
  11. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    I'm curious...

    What's the difference between belief and opinion in your mind?
     
  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I am not sure how a gorilla would communicate it's decisions to us and I don't know that a gorilla would have anything relevant to offer an apartment dweller who is deciding what restaurant to go to.
     
  13. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    democracy is just a cover for capitalism.
     
  14. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    You will experience a string of sensations some of which you will regard as pleasant and some not so.
     
  15. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    Boogabah ftw

    the OP's idea is only good if it applies to the legislative branch.

    but capitalism and democracy entirely are turning obsolete. well the entire monetary system for that matter. i really dislike (almost hate) any person that is willing to give support over to a person to control things, and still follow politics even though the answers are way outside the box.
     
  16. JackFlash

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    And you think the country will run itself?

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  17. autumnbreeze

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    Well, on that level, of course. I know that one already. That's been the story of my life, since the beginning of time, if it indeed actually had a beginning. And seems likely to continue indefinitely.

    However, if you take your eyes off the ever changing kaleidoscope of the moment, there ends up being this interesting phenomenon, that I like to call time. It's like a thread, that connects this moment to all others. And along that thread there's something of a story being told. And I kinda like stories. And I'm always interested to know what happens next in the story. On the edge of my seat, so to speak.
     
  18. thedope

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    Who is the teller of the story? We see our selves figures in history forgetting that we are the tellers of it.
     
  19. autumnbreeze

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    I am but one speaker amongst many, it's not my tale to tell, not alone. The being that I'm being has limits. Whether those limits are illusions or no matters not at all. It's an illusion central to the experience of reality itself if illusion it is at all. A notion of which I am firmly unconvinced.

    I believe, more strongly than I believe in any other single notion, that I am in fact not here alone. I have evidence for this stronger than for any other notion. Although I have no firm faith in anything, this is that which I come closest to truly believing. Therefor, so far as I am aware, I am -not- the sole storyteller.
     

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