meph / M1 situation

SO im not asking for sources or anything, but I am wondering what ppl have been up to since the Meph ban came down.
I loived M1 with a little B1, and liked meph also. espescailly the crystal stuff.
I only grabbed up some every 5 months or so, but now all companies are gone.
I still see ads but im sure 75% are scams..
Or are they?
Its hard to believe those factories just stopped production because one country passed a ban.
any advice?, or am I back to the begining of sending $ and taking my chances?

 

A lot of companies just took advantage of the UK/Northern Ireland Mephedrone buying craze. There are most likely other companies out there, just have to keep looking. I know what you mean by the sending money and taking chance thing. Maybe if you find a source, someone can verify it for you. Otherwise try to get hooked up with a source verification board. Hope that helped.

 

The UK companies around today seem to be to be mostly criminal, or wreckless at best. Look at some of the threads on BL... Some sites are apparently selling talcum powder as some hot new RC. Others seem to be passing off their old 4MMC or M1 as NRG-2 or XT.3 or some rubbish name. Then there's countless websites all "selling" 5-IAI and 6-APDB but none of them actually have it in stock. There were maybe only a couple dodgy UK vendors before the ban, but since the ban the number of dodgy vendors seems to have inexplicably exploded, and there are now dozens. AFTER the ban! I just don't get it! I don't see this ending in a good way, probably some kids are gonna die ingesting some unknown compound and the govt will quite rightly take very swift and strong action to put an end to all of these vendors.

I buy my RCs offshore these days, there are definitely some very good vendors out there, you can even pay in Pounds. The plus side is you can buy all the stuff that's been banned here. The down side is you have to wait 10 to 15 days for delivery.

 

source from another country.

 

Same thing happened here in Ireland too. There was new headshops opening each week. Died down a bit now with a few still buying from online vendors. Not too sure what the headshops have replaced it with though.

 

Something quite nasty it seems. Several threads on BL about hospitalizations.

 

Great, more unneeded attention on the RC scene.

 

I can toss an anecdote from my perspective. I have been conversing with a 'manufacturer/wholesaler' for years.

He had been pushing his meph produce hard, especially strongly once the bans were in effect. But ATM the pressure has dropped and I will presume his back-stock is spoken for, or he has realized a singular channel who can take all he has left, or arranged future batches only through pre-order. Either way, I have been repeating for months that Americans show little/no interest as the fears of cardio-toxticity (as if MDPV rooting powder isn't bad enough)...

Lets just suppose he has finally understood the change in tide, has been doing this for years, and changed his production and sales quantities, to whatever's it clever, feller. I expect M1 to be more bountiful as it is (survey SEZ!) good business, all the while staying on the safe side of the enforcers.

Anyone else wanna throw out a rumor to keep this baller rolling?

 

Probably NRG-1 or something similar then. Although Im not too sure whether the current ban covers all cathinones. Never bothered going to headshops anyway. Its the exact same as two (maybe one) years ago when benzylpiperazine was made illegal. It was just replaced with something else.

Thats the way its always going to be as well. Which is a stupid and dangerous way for the government to handle the situation as it means more obscure and untested chemicals being pushed onto the market.

Its not a matter of nasty chemicals, more about thick users and terrible marketing. Since it cant be sold with the intention of human consumption, theres no health warnings, recommended dosage etc..with the packaging.

I still get everything ok through the post though so it hasnt changed anything for me.

 

tell him to make tryptamines
4acodmt is a popular one

 

I have said that as often as I tell him meph isn't wanted in USA ... he seems to says USA wants 4mmc now and I should get a move on. He basically ignores my suggestions at change of products, seems he has a large (claims to produce, and has shown to be able to deliver, MASS QUANTITIES) organization so I can only guess he is doing this as his Rolodex is already developed, technicians doing routine, packaging all organized.

But more importantly, he may have once been a major k producer, but stopped once it became illicit and a risk for him. We discuss our possible/probable risks and he feels very secure in the legitimacy of his work, globally, in this manner, at the moment. Wasnt webtripped like years ago?

 

This thread is fucking retarded.

NONE of the good vendors I know have cute meph out of the picture! There is one (we all know about...) That upped the price and wont sell afterwords, but thats just one!

Comeon guys! Your buying drugs off the net, put some more effort into it! Shit...

"OMG BTMG is going to up the price by 3 dollars and not sell in 3 months! What am I going to do!??!!?!"

...

 

Yeah not hard to find at all, I can only assume the OP was getting it at a head shop or one of the six trillion english "plant food" websites. John Q Fucking Christ google the damn thing.

 

why would you put **EDIT** up like that?...

 

If you're gonna complain at least don't quote them so they're down in another place

I love HF..
It's not gonna dissappear just because of laws. It'll just go more underground and you guys will have to put some effort into a search.

 

it's just funny how people flip shit about sources and than someone does shit like this and no one cares? it's like you guys decide certain days for rules to apply and certain days for them not to..

 

No need for acronyms, search harder.


It's still legal in places, as long as that is true, everything will shift accordingly, some places will probably not have it, but it will just be a bit more pricey, but it sounds like where there is a will there is a way and this compound can't be snuffed out, I think.

 

I don't know what you guys are talking about. There wasn't any discussion of a source until you guys brought it up. NOW I have to take the acronym down. I didn't know there was a source with random letters. What about these;

KYK
KY GELLY
BU
NSD
YUTALKINGSHIT
R-WeDUMB

Oh shit, I just gave away like six sources I don't think anyone is going to care about the sources that they don't know about... Until you say something and point it out.

BTMG = BeTäubungsMittelGesetz

"Traffic in narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances including their precursors is regulated in the Narcotics Act of 1981 (Betäubungsmittelgesetz - BtMG) and the Precursors Control Act of 1994 (Grundstoffüberwachungsgesetz - GÜG). The provisions laid down therein and in the subsequently issued orders (Order concerning the Foreign Trade in Narcotic Drugs; Order concerning the Domestic Trade in Narcotic Drugs, Narcotic Drugs Prescription Order) provide the legal framework for the tasks and activities of the Federal Opium Agency at the BfArM (Bundesopiumstelle des BfArM)."

I was talking about the actual law affecting the sales of these. You know, normal people don't immediately think of an acronym being a source. Just because you know one doesn't mean half or any of the people do.

 

Haha.
Well I guess I just stirred up a debate.
No. I'm in the US and I've never bought meph / M1 from any headshop.
I was actually expecting to here what the third or so poster
said regarding dodgy vendors.
Im kinda old and honestly don't have the time or disire to spend hrs searching for source like I used to.
I even found real qualude powder a few yrs back. I used to be on a few private fors.
About 6 months ago I wanted some meph for the first time in about a yr or more and was amazed at the number of companies selling openly.
I expect rather than close down they will just rip ppl off before disapearing.
But I'm very surprised to see all these smoking blends popping up OTC in the US when I never once saw meph in any shop. Maybe I never looked but I don't think it was there.
Lately I'm busy w work and don't have the time or $$ to be testing new sources.
But I know it's out there and when I have some $ I'll get around to hetiing more.
I think companies were doing so well in the UK they now will target customers in the us
For the life of me idk why it has never really caught on.

 

Haha cod...


I think it has caught on, I remember reading about the hicks in the south loving it and going crazy over it.

I think meph will play a large role in the market and its sustainability.