I just had my first real salvia experiance. I don't know what sidetracked me the other times I smoked it... but this time I went strait into the heart of it. I met the entity and went though it's process. Salvia is no fucking joke. I've tripped on high doses of shrooms, 2c-i, 2c-e, lsd, and lets even count DXM in here... but nothing came close to the power of that experiance. It was beyond good and evil. Beyond space and time. And it was a force much greater than me. I've been humbled. It's fucking real... I've been disassembled, forced to go through and become a part of it's "process", and then reassembled before it let me escape. I was not alone in there. And I was not aware of anything but it and what it required of me(also my fear that this was now my reality, my only hope of escape was to obey it and do what it required of me, which I did with reluctance). When I reemerged, I wasn't even aware of where I was in time and reality.. the fact that I had taken a drug did not occur to me until I spoke with my trip sitter. I don't know what that was, but with great respect I will re enter it with closer understanding and see if I can make any sense of it. I'll repost when this happens.
I suppose I'll let you in on some other detales. I took a deep and heavy hit with a torch lighter and held it in for a long time. As it was in I noticed the sliver of light on the wall in front of me peeled back (something like an orange) and as I exhaled.. I entered the realm it seemed that existed behind the light. The trip happened. And when it let me escape (I had tried to a few times but it urged me to go further and I went with it) I ran after another part of myself and I vividly remember crawling out and back into myself through the creese in the couch where I was sitting.
Sounds incredible. I wish I could use my butane torch but the carb on the bong i bought is to close to where I put the salvia. And what Im thinking is burnt fingers=bad trip so I use the bic..seems to burn it up. It is a small bong. I still have over 1/2 gram of 60X Im so jealous (nit literaly) but I would love to feel this and come back with nothing seriously uncomfy to report. I wont give up just yet. How many times had you tried before ? Please read my report..60Xfirst time and if you have any suggestions. Please fire away. I just know there is a great expierience waiting for me.
this is the only thing that keeps me interested in smoking it again. i want to understand the experience. btw, this is why i read this forum. too bad it's so confusing and hard to integrate.
I don't know about that man. I was pretty fucking shook up when I came back. It rattled my cage, I was humbled. lol
Yeah, I met it too, the once. Well, not really met, only sensed. Thing scared the life out of me. Sucked inside out and out of reality into a vast open emptiness outside of space and time. And there was something out there with me, something vast and looming like a leviathan in the deep. And it was -terrifying-. Spent the entire experience desperately trying to get back to reality. Biggest positive of the experience was that I spent the next 12 hours on something of a 'natural' high. Extremely high energy, mild euphoria. Like I was just so damn thrilled to be alive, and yet everything still had this strange tone of surreality. Like I wasn't absolutely certain I -had- made it back. Keep thinking I should steel myself and try it again. Like there is something of value, past that strange terrible gateway. I refused it the first time, fought against it with all my will. Clung to the tiny shreds of me, held with all my will onto the 'doorway' back to whatever reality I had come from. Clawed and fought my way back to sanity and ordered existence. From what I've understood, resistance isn't the way to go, surrender is. But wow, that seems like it would be so hard, since there was such an overwhelming sense of panic to it all. Might be I just wasn't ready to face the abyss.
The part that really creeped me out... when I went into that other dimention (or whatever the fuck it was) I instantly reconized it on some level. It was familure to me, and as soon as I got there I knew I didn't want to stay, but the entity insisted I go through it's... whatever the fuck it put me through and I supposed that obeying it was the only way to make it back out. But for some reason, I know I'm going to go back in. When I was out and was just starting to integrate myself back to reality as I knew it... I had no idea that i had just consumed a drug. I had to ask my trip sitter what we were just doing (and I reconized her face on my way out. I remember thinking "Why is she here? Has she been the master of this place this whole time? Why has she kept me in the dark? I have to have her explane this strange terrible realm to me) and after she told me "we just smoked salvia" I remember replying "I'm done. Never touching that stuff again" lol, and I ment it. Yet still I'm going to dive in again. I have to know if it was a real as it felt, or just my mind creating some state that I had not previously known it was caple of reaching...
wow... it wasn't just me. How terribly absurd. I understand exactly what you're saying. How terribly absurd. Edit: A feeling that I got as I was becoming a part of salvias process was that this was something like the mechinery that produced reality, and it needed to use my life force perhaps as fuel... I had the concept that I was in the layer of reality that manufactures what we experiance in life (the real word) and since I put myself in it's presence I had to do my part to keep the wheel turning... pay the toll as it were. I'm not saying this is what happened, but it was one of the ideas that entered my ehad at some point and sure as shit that's what it FELT like.
yep, i instantly recognize it when i'm there too. it loosely feels like some memory from childhood that i had lost. "never touching that stuff again". lol, i always say that. more than i do in my vodka hangovers.
Maybe I got caught up on the wrong words when you were explaining it to me. No poo-pooing here. You rock
As per request of tripper, my account of trip sitting this silly boy goes like this: I went first. And by the time I was semi-lucid again, I asked him to give me a little while to fully re-acclimate, but he just couldn't wait to take his damn turn. At that point, the only responsibility I could hold as being a trip sitter was to make sure he didn't fall down and crack his head. I could offer no consolation for a rough ride, as I had seen with my trip that it would be useless. After the exhale, I took the bowl and lighter from him and waited for a show. Because I wasn't fully back yet myself, I couldn't tell exactly when S_S had departed from this world. I thought he was fucking with me for a minute as he sat there, eyes wide open, looking around, mumbling jibberish and grabbing at nothing. It was quite strange to witness my best friend look me dead in the eye, but be completely unresponsive. A mere shell of a physical body whose mind was obviously in some other world. After a minute of that, he stood up with purpose... I was going to let him go, but when I saw him teetering to the side I jumped up and steadied him. I tried to take him back to the sofa, but he promptly sat on the floor, then into a laying position next to one of my rat's cages. I thought a cage was about to be knocked over, or he would get bitten as Chompy the rat doesn't take kindly to stray appendages waving around near his territory. After rolling around on the floor for a bit, I helped him up and that's about the point lucidity began to return. He looked so confused and I could tell he wanted to ask a million questions, but not much came out. "What were we just doing?" was the first coherent sentence he formed. I told him we just smoked Salvia, but it didn't seem to compute... A few minutes later, partially back to reality and he sternly swore off the stuff for good... but I knew he was just shaken up and didn't mean it... just like me...
It scares me to...but less each time. It is so strong. But gravity seems to pull me twards the bong and the salvia even sober. But I can wait a few days. I did it again and put it in my 60X thread..it was freggin insane. LOL...I didnt know that a gram of 60X was 60 grams condensed into 1...lol you would think it was gonna give strokes across the planet...
All the people that have actually been through a salvia trip should. Talk to each other and see if we can come up with some type of conclusion about salvia land. We know that it feels like dejavu. And we all agree on the gravity or force pulling you.
I'm afraid of doing salvia again. But is like my mind wants to go back. My body hates salvia it makes me sweaty and shit. But like I said my mind lves that mind fuck.
Yeah, it certainly seems to have universal elements. Interestingly enough I feel pretty similarly about DMT. Fascinated, disturbed, it's somewhat frightening yet deeply compelling. The whole completely out of your hands aspect is very interesting.
yep, i've been there. wrote a trip report about it. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=382776&f=124
all of us have this part in our brain that isnt used. that something triggers and brings us to a diffrent galaxy(so it seems) and when we come back from it were always trying to open our mind to that again. we only use 10 percent of our brains but on drugs(depends on what it is) jumps up to like 45 percent or somthing i read. i love mind altering drugs cuz it makes me realize alot more then i knew before. have any of u read about davinci and leanardo who tookacid and it opend there mind to so many new things. when i was on shrooms or molly i would think about our future and space and government and shit and i swear we can become super humans once we figure out how to trigger this part of our brain with out drugs. we have the capabilty to do almost anything. the government has just controled us for so long and brain washed us. its time to open our brains up. i want to try this salvia. cuz i love tryn to open my mind up more and more. and try to figure out what i can do.