What's the scope of duration if used to insufflate DMT Fumarate? What would be a good dose and would an MAOI be ideal to use?
From what I've witnessed it should just work on its own, but it looked like the cons outweighed the pros to me on that one, so I never gave it a go. Lots of eye watering pain on a DMT trip?....I'll pass.
i would never insulfate any form of a tryptamine. Unless i was a masochist that is. Having never done it, i couldn't begin to guess at duration of effects, but it's probably not much different from smoking a dose. Pre-dose with an MAOI and get longer-lasting effects. Ha ha, if pre-dosing with MAOI then following with smoked DMT is vaporhuasca, would the above be snortohuasca, tootohusaca, or something similar? As i understand it, the freebase is 31% more potent than the fumarate salt. So, if you wanted to experience a pharma trip of 50 mg freebase, you would use about 65 to 66 mg of the fumarate to achieve similar effects. Remember that it will come on faster and harder than the freebase when consumed as pharma. But, again, i'm only feeling solid on this knowledge for oral (not insulfated) doses). Please let us know how it goes if you choose to try it. i suspect it would be very excruciating. Spicey Cat -Meow!
My bud snorted around a tenth last year, and he ended up tripping decently for about 15 minutes. His eyes were watering a good amount though, and he said it was probably the most painful thing he'd snorted. I just smoked mine.
i snorted about 120 mg freebase once and it didn't really get me tripping but did have some of the sedative effects for a good 30 minutes. the pain was ridiculous though and I will never snort dmt again.
Well, I will take that as "Up in the air" seems like the only stuff people have insufflated is the freebase... will let you know once conversion is completed.
can you have your friend snort some 4-meo-pcp and get back with us about which is more painful? *edit* is dmt fumurate the synthetic nndmt?
"fumarate" just means it is the freebase n,n DMT (whether synthetic or extracted) reacted with fumaric acid to produe fumaric salt, as opposed to reacted with hydrochloric acid to produce DMT HCL, or citric acid to produce DMT Citrate, etc.
dmt fumurate could be snythetic or extracted. like writer mentioned dmt fumurate is just freebase bonded with fumaric acid to make dmt fumarate. dmt freebase burns worse than 2c-i if I remember correctly, but I don't think the burn lasted quite as long(maybe 2 or 3 minutes). I assume 4-meo-pcp burns more than 2c-x's?
4 Meo PCP is really bad. I've snorted 2ct2 which was ok , a small amount of 2ce which was bad but 4 Meo PCP is just hell. Like the second that shit went up my nose my brain just went "uhoh bad move" and its the only chemical that's been so bad insuffalated that I threw up a little in my mouth and I lay there for like 15 minutes in agony funneling water up my nose. Then you get all the disassociated effects with multiple voices in your head with an awful drip, bad way to go with that stuff.
i've heard, not sure if it's true, and it was about snorting hydrocodones...NOT to put water up your nose afterward, because it made it even worse for your septum and ate through it more quickly.
