Misinterpretation?

Sometimes considerably less. I would be willing to bet that two sentences are more often read, and to better effect than two chapters, and can be just as provocative.

 

Your snippets get me all riled up bro

 

Provocative yes, informative, not as much.

I get most of your responses, but why always with the seeming air of mystery and quasi-mystical connotations to EVERYTHING.
As I have said before, it actually gets rather tedious and I would love for you to once in a while just jump into the conversation without trying to make it seem as if we are all blessed by you imparting some vague and nebulous platitude. Honestly, you often come across as arrogant and aloof, at least from my reading of your posts.

I like you, thedope, you do have some very worthwhile stuff to add as do most others, but you really don't need to maintain the "distance" that I sense at times. I feel as though I'm talking to the Wizard hiding behind the curtain, and we all know what happened when Toto found him back there.

 

okay guys, lets look at LSD like a paint brush. Artists are usually good with them because they are used to the feel, they know how the hairs of the brush move, they have made mistakes, and have made some ugly paintings. Its all part of learning.


The thing with LSD though, when you are in a group, usually the WHOLE GROUP is holding the paintbrush, so this is where problems may arise. SET AND SETTING. Choose your artists wisely.




Plant only good seeds, my brothers and sisters.

 

I'm not so much in control of seeming. I am very straight forward in that this is my method of communication and interest always. I just say what comes to mind. You've complained about this affectation since I first met you, I don't really know what to tell you about it.

What you consider a vague and nebulous platitude I regard as common sense.
Further, what is wrong with reaching for understanding? I too experience a tedious aspect to trying to communicate with people and for me it is wading through the defensive reactions of those who's beliefs or sensitivities I've offended. I do have a dispassionate perspective in regards to hysteria and I regard all as energetic exchange.

I grew up in Kansas, you got the wrong character. What do you suggest I do to appear more amiable?
I really have no shortage of affection for you. You are among the most enjoyable to talk to.

 

Sometimes you gotta.... maybe PB is due for an acid trip.

 

That gave me much more insight into YOU more than the one line responses do. I guess thats what I'm after, what is thedope really like. Often it sounds like you are quoting from some devotional thought a day calendar, and I'm not convinced the thought is yours or something you read somewhere.

Does that provide a clearer perspective on what I meant?
I also find you to be an interesting personality to converse with, but it seems I do most of the talking.

 

And you have got to quit acting as if psychedelics held all the answers.
The only thing psychedelics provide is what the persons takes into the experience with them.

I have respect for you and your knowledge and such about them, but you attribute too much power to them at times.

As far as being due for an acid trip, sure, are you providing the ticket

 

I can see what you mean man, but WE are the ones who hold the answers, WE are the ones with the power. Just gotta poke around and for me, at least, psychedelics are perfecto for poking.

 

There is an art to everything. In the early days of tripping all I knew was eat substance, go off and trip. Bad trips happened, bad situations, exhaustion, tripping to hard to quick, stomach hurting, mind loops, bad thoughts, suicidal thoughts, wrong environments, pretty much everything that could go wrong did go wrong.

Now when I trip I know the right setting, what food to eat, the right state of mind to be in, the right way to eat the substance, what music to play, whats gonna be scary and whats gonna be fun, I never have a bad trip now, no fear! I have learned the art of tripping, Ive realized what works and what doesn't, Ive learned how to let go, and that is an art!

 

poking around the landscape of your mind is always a worthy venture, but remember lsd only reveals what is already there.

 

Right. Many more people die than trip, yet we've never stopped working on how to do it, and will likely benefit from continuing to look individually and as groups on something like the art of dying (and the art of tripping). And we've looked at it across time and cultures, for example, ancient texts like Ars moriendi, Tibetan Book of the Dead, (more recently) On Death and Dying, and last month at the MAPS conference, people talking about the art (or Tao or heart or whatever) of tripping and dying.

Here's something representing thousands of trips: http://entheoguide.net/wiki/Manual

Oh, and back to the OP: Usually we write about things, but it looks to me like you wrote it (vs. about it).

 

There was a tipping point in my inner dialogue when everything started to be answers instead of questions and since then my head has been filled with statements of principle. Put a circumstance in one end and out the other pops the statement of principle that applies. I really do think that way.

I am not apt to blow my own horn and I usually relate biographical information only as it relates to illuminate a point. I probably talk less than many. Some think me quiet, some wish I would shut up.

 

just because I fuck better now than I did my first few times doesn't mean ive 'mastered the art of fucking' or that such a ridiculous concept even truly exists. Sure some pretentious dingbats could claim that there is an art for any activity but that's just to help them feel validated in what they are doing, its not real art.

LSD is just a chemical, you have just became accustomed to the effects so you have gained an understanding of it. Understanding hardly equates to art. Art is a projection of internal processess and concepts projected onto an external medium. You can certainly produce art quite different and profound influenced by LSD but just ingesting the chemical and tripping' is in no way art.

 

Shut up, Guerillabedlam, you're picking apart shit uselessly from the entirely unfounded basis of belief that is there is no way to prepare yourself for a trip. AND too much of a brick to provide any experiences and insight relative to my inquiry. This thread was not created for you to say no to one individual about something unrelated to you, and I imagine even more unrelated because apparently you don't know much about set and setting. Were you ever on the debate team?

What's YOUR point PB?

Thanks, but no thanks.You offer nothing here but sour old farts. Go sit down in a corner away from the computer and be a vag about your own vag if you can't go outside and enjoy sun as it is. (Is the sun not clear enough for you either?)

Back on topic...

And I'm mostly speaking of how people feel and behave after the fact. I'm talking about the way people change after an LSD experience, some remain blissful for a while, WHILE some are caught in the thought loops and anxiety. Yes it definitely is the same concept for under the infleunce, but some who have those feelings during a bad trip are able to realize the death of that in waking perception and ready to face the sky.

I'm only describing in that, what is described in it. Yes it is a rant, but there are many points of behavior that can be addressed in respects to what people get out of their experiences.



The Dope:
"What do you imagine might be brought down upon your head, double haha"

It was a joke relating to the very process of thinking I'm trying to call into question and get some answers on.

"I don't seek negative effects."

Neither do I.

"There are no needs being met."

I agree if you mean actual needs. It is a need in their head.

"The thought always comes first."

Profound sensation does not originate in a thought. Definitely thought if you are considering thought the same as consciousness. There is a difference between feeling the strong sense, and mistaking the intensity as negative.

"Or you in your own."

Yeah, well kind of, I thought it was pretty clear this thread was influenced by one's pace of mind and anxiety being pushed on a group. It is discomforting to be asked questions by and guided by discomfort.

"Did you know that for yourself, your life appears to you as you describe it."

Turning my words around, to be just words, without influence? Disrespectufl if you ask me. But fuck respect. Clearly something you don't care about, which is good for being able provide the support for people questioning their thoughts and feelings. Which is a noble position to take sometimes, but always? Apparently PB isn't paying attention to your words enough to know you both do similar things. Although, props to you for being consice and short spoken, although it does sometimes seem arrogant in trying for productive conversation. As you said it certainly is more effective than that mumbo jumbo of words that mutes even the criticism and just amplifies negativity.

I will restate that which you unknowledgeably and inexperienced to my life cared to insist were projections.

"I have had friends that I have known to be extremely content and peaceful at times throughout their life, but have come to points and periods where their actions and words were ruled by anxiety. I myself have been through similar periods and have had many mental mountains to climb."


Thank you AreYouExperienced, InThyDreams, Prone420 for providing actual answers to my questions.

 

Excuse me, the dope. You did not insist it. You suggested my life is only as I think it is. Still my statements were simple and guided only by experiences of conduct of others and my own thinking.

 

Come again. I might see what you mean as this particular thread was influenced by events of the day and evening, and relative to how I felt. Similarly trapped in something.

I wouldn't even write about it, anymore. I care not to consider some thinking a failure of others. Things can be hard, that's most definitely true. There is a lot in this world to provoke ill feelings and their behavior.

I think much of the anxiety I was talking (about), is caused by one squirming to get out of the grasp of those artificial constructs.

 

Sounds like what every person on the planet goes through...it's called life.

Well considering your response's ......
That your an immature dipshit, fucking grow up.

 

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