I am beyond excited. In one month, I am going to a festival where I will be able to experience the mushroom for the first time. For a little background, LSD is something I am experienced in. I have reached the point where it is an impossibility to communicate a few times with Lucy. I have also tripped several times at concerts. Other than LSD, my tripping experience is limited to very wreckless and intense DXM trips. I do not quite believe in bad trips. I know it is possible to have a unpleasant time, but, to me, that does not make it a bad trip. I think if you go into a trip open and accepting of everything around you, you will have an easier time coping with whatever comes up. The one unpleasant experience I have had with LSD had me confronting my fears and anxieties with the opposite sex (I have no "game" as my generation would say). I was not terrified and I did not leave the trip damaged. I was as uncomfortable as I could get being surrounded by dancing females, but I got through it. I actually feel less apprehension upon meeting people now... I think. There is a great chance that I am wrong about much of this. I am young and likely not as experienced as many of you (obviously, I have never eaten mushrooms ). But, that was just to give you my background, mindset and current view on tripping. So, here is my situation... I went to this festival once before, it was beautiful. We each had two weak hits of Lucy. It was a downer that the trip was not the greatest. We were low on cash, so we could not look for a better source/more. After the dissapointment passed, we all had a great time enjoying the music, nature, company and sky. This year, we are leaning heavily towards mushrooms, rather than lucy. I know as much as you can know about mushrooms without ever using them. The person(s) I will be with are experienced in the mushroom field. I have used lucy with them and have been very far out there. I have one concern: I have heard, more than once, that psylocin takes you on an even more introspective trip and may be more likely to cause negative thoughts. I absolutely love throwing myself out there. Everyone will be eating a 1/4 oz. I am wanting to do the same. Like I stated earlier, I have never had a "bad trip" and do not quite believe in them. I am going into the trip with as much knowledge as possible without actually tripping on the mushrooms. The only concern is if a quarter is too much for a first time, even if I have tripped numerous times with Lucy. I guess my main question is exactly that, do you think I will be okay eating a quarter? Am I being too naive with my view on "bad trips?" The most lucy Ive taken has been 4 very, very strong hits (in my opinion). I usually eat 3. I know it is hard to say, but do you think a quarter of mushrooms throw me out further than those hits? Thanks for your help, support and time! sincerely, a young adventurer
You eat a qtr oz the first time you shroom and you just may find out what a bad trip is. And a festival is not the place you want to have your first bad trip. You tend to make quite the ass out of yourself. Eat an 1/8. If they're good shrooms you will be plenty fucked up.
I thought my attmept to explain myself in this particular area would rub someone the wrong way. From my experiences with LSD ( I admit I am only moderately experienced), a trip is a trip, if that makes sense. Personally, if a negative experience is had, it does not mean the trip is a "bad trip," and it does not mean the negativity cannot be dealt with and passed through. I have been "out there" in some pretty ridiculous situations and have felt intense panic and fear in the face of my anxieties. I have got myself through these situations, namely the situation i mentioned in my OP. These situations did not consume my entire trip, but I do not particularly fear the possibility of that happening. I still do not know if i really explained this as well as I wanted to. But, the purpose of me stating this was not to say "This is how this is, this is how this should be looked at." It was to give the reader/advisor an idea of my view/outlook and background. I honestly appreciate your feedback. I am glad I gave you a laugh . Do you care to expand, if at all possible? Thanks
Oh don't worry, you didn't rub me the wrong way. That was just my little friendly way of letting you know that if you think being surrounded by dancing girls was a bad trip, you've got a ways to go before being comfortable in the belief that they don't exist. Basically, if there is still enough of you alive to confront your fears and anxieties, you are still in the kindergarten of bad trips.
Thanks. From the responses so far, I am leaning toward an eighth a bit more than I was. The stupidity of a quarter is still calling, though. haha. Do not worry, I am not taking these possibilities as lightly as seems. I just usually go with the higher dose if unsure. My first illegal drug was LSD. This was several years ago. I read a couple books on psychedelics and basically interviewed people on their experiences before even trying it. When I was ready, I dropped 3 very strong hits on a camping/reunion trip with a small group of close relatives from my childhood.
Oh, I gotcha. You are correct. I have thought about this issue many times, even to the point where I thought I could believe it. But, I do not think I was ever certain it was actuality (these were "sober" thoughts). I think I may have approached that plateau. But I have never experienced it as my "reality." The farthest I have been "out there" did not consist of me believing my surroundings didn't exist, but, my surroundings kind of disappeared. I lost awareness of the people and happenings around me. That point where you're unable to communicate or decypher anything. Flows of insight came in waves at many points during this stage, i think. I'm unable to really make a timeline. lol
My advice is NOT to eat a quarter. Acid trip does not equal Shroom trip. I had tripped acid about 10 times before I first tried shrooms. I had also tried DXM. So similar situation as yourself. I thought since I handled acid perfectly well that mushrooms would be no sweat. You are not invincible to a bad trip or a difficult one! I ate a quarter of some caps that were straight fire. They kicked my ass and put me in my place. Since then I have tripped shrooms many times. You may eat a quarter and you may love it, but you may eat a quarter and have a really tough time. Especially being in public at a festival. My advice is to read up on the differences between the effects of mushrooms and LSD. Your safer bet is to eat an 8th since you've never tried shrooms before that would be my advice. Even with an 8th you may have a bad trip. It's a definite possibility. Everyone reacts differently to different substances. I personally have found that I am more greatly affected by psilocibin than most of my friends yet I do just as well with 2c-x's and even a touch better than them with acid. Point being eat an 8th at most and do your research!
This whole thing fell through. But, I, tonight, am splitting a half with two other people. I will be injesting a little over an eighth (have a good scale). This will be my first mushroom trip. It is in a great setting with my brother and a friend. They are from a very trusted source. He has ate them and says they are very potent. I am as ready as I can be. Thanks for the advice and wish me luck.
You don't believe in bad trips, but having seen someone experience an INSANELY bad trip, I will have to disagree with you. I've seen someone go to hell and back during a bad trip. He saw his own body parts being tossed into some spinning blades and being chopped to pieces, with blood splattering on the walls and everything. He thought I was Satan and he saw horns growing out of my head, while my short brown hair proceeded to grow longer and turn pitch-black. He thought we were in hell, because he saw flames engulfing his house and everything in it, including us. He saw insects and snakes crawling up from the ground throughout the entire trip. He claimed to see his pitbull ripping a random person to pieces and tossing body parts everywhere with blood dripping from his mouth. It was crazy shit. I'm surprised I didn't have a bad trip as a result of his bad trip, since I happened to dose twice as high as he did. This was on 2ce, and 2ce doesn't produce NEARLY the amount of mindfuck mushrooms produce. In my experience, mushrooms also produce much more mindfuck than LSD.
mushrooms are quite possibly the most psychological terrifying psychedelic. No wonder 4-aco-dmt holds this same sort of power, lauded as it is for having similar effects. These two tryptamines will eat you up and spit you out and you'll be wiping away your tears and snot afterwards shaking your head at how you fell into the trap everyone told you it was; 'i dont believe in bad trips'.
i think neodude believes in the mind, or that bad trips are terrifying 4.6 grams is still a hefty dose of shrooms, especially if they are potent. let us know how the trip went
it wasn't you who failed writer, it was porkstock massively, I might add I'd recognize your mooji anywhere