Being bisexual and male is the worst!

i wouldnt over think it

 

It's been my experience that women want nothing to do with bisexual men. In fact, if you want to make a woman leave you, telling her you're bisexual does the trick every time. If I'm dating a woman, they just assume I'm straight, the subject never comes up. Women will ask what you want from a relationship and what you drive and how much you make, and once those 3 questions have been answered satisfactorily, they are done asking questions, they're just not that curious...

 

the things you quote in your original post are ancient history. things have changed a long long time ago. maybe you've developed such an idea out of personal reservations or maybe you just haven't got out that lot. in any case, live your life so that you always do what you want to be doing. other people's opinion really doesn't matter.

 

well said... ostrich with its head in the sand phenomenon... I won't ask, there for I don't know... therefore... err-too... all is well... too funny.

bottom line is I don't remember who said it about "women who are bi have it harder in different ways" is milking the stereotype.

Women have ZERO downside to being or claiming or "playing one on weekends" if there are slim pickin's & the local cruise... It is fashionably accepted women will experiment & sociologically a curse to have experimented as a guy... facts don't lie... On the flip side... its almost a double-jeapordy for bi-men.. the women who MIGHT actually enjoy that "scene" are repressed or forced to act "repulsed" by an activity that truly turns them on, because the bi-male is a fallacy.

I get a huge charge from all the Couples-seeking-women personals seeking the proverbial "Unicorn".. that truly bisexual woman who alludes capture & entanglement.... Fuck that... the reality is flakes & posers have both tits & cocks... the true unicorn is any person or couple who owns their sexuality & wears it on their sleeve. All the ads that take the time, space, character length, & internet bans width to pronounce how "STR8" a guy is in a couple seeking a 3rd... all the ads in every metropolitan area of "str8 guy" looking for what his GF or wife won't give him....

WAKE UP AMERICA!!! the dysfunction is the perception that male-on-male sex is inherently dangerous, disease riddled, & a signature for death.

again... more women cheat with more partners than men by nearly 3 fold.

Its about acceptance & measuring your own situation..

R.

 

Hello every one... newbie here!

I am a straight girl, very sexual and open minded. I love the idea of bisexual men.

As a matter of fact my other half, who is also straight, has allowed my ultimate fantasy to come true which is to be in a MMF threesome with two bi guys!.

I will be doing this in the near future and can't wait!.

Please, don't despair there are women out there like me... who don't mind their partners being bi.

There are some Adult websites where you can see couples whose partners are bi or bi-curious so there are more women out there nowadays that are secure enough and open minded who don't mind their partners getting a bit of cock on the side

 

Lesbian porn catered for strait men has paved the way for this so called 'social acceptance', but I don't see it quite in the same way as the OP has expressed.

For instance, a man could ask his girlfriend to get off with her friend because it is hot, and they will. He thinks it's fantastic (I have friends like this). Then the girlfriend leaves him and runs of with a girl, the reality kicks in and this person realizes that they do not like the idea of her bisexuality.

Fake bisexuals are adored, real ones are in fact ostracized. And I agree it's a little harder for men, because of a little thing called testosterone. I seldom mention my sexuality to many, but as a bisexual person you find yourself not 'gay' enough or 'strait' enough for anybody else's taste.

I don't think you want to be looking for an exclusively bisexual girl however, when thinking of a relationship. You just need to find someone, whoever who will accept you for who you are. There are people out there who will, who are a lot more liberal...

Particularly here on a hipppie forum

 

(Be Forewarned: I may have a couple of misspellings in this post; though I do not think that I do.)

I don't want to ruin your persistence, however this is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. First, you didn't capitalize appropiately in your post. Second, you seperated what should be independent sentences with commas. It should be " "You cant type for shit." or "You can't type for shit!" Then following that should be "Your grammer is appalling." Also, this is opinionated, so it would be better to say "I find your grammer to be appalling." (Keep in mind that not all people find misspellings and improper grammer offensive.)

Nonetheless, it would be better to say "Your ability to type seems to be lacking." Its just more tactful that way, and says the same thing. (I personally find the perjorative term ineffective in this case.) {Do you see how I did that? I placed my opinion in a tactful manner.}

Nonetheless, I know that spelling may mean a lot to you if this occurance was in a published educational article, or written by a professer teaching a class on Etymology. Keep in mind, however, to realize the location where the poor writing style took place. This is a forum, not a college course on literature.

On forums you have people who have not always had the same type of education as you may have had. Education levels on a forum such as this one vary a great deal. Its just a fact of life.

Furthermore, some schools these days are very lacking in the subjects they teach. Unfortunately, proper grammer is one of the subjects that is not taught as extensively as it used to be, especially when the budget for public schools (in many countries, including the U.S.A.) is at the worst level (per student) than it had been in 30 years. This of course should not reflect on the individual as a person. This is not necessarily the person's fault.

Many people are somewhat illiterate, or have learning difficulties. Some of these people are the most intellegent people I have ever met. I'd rather help people to learn to write properly, than to berate them when they misspell words. One of the steps I can take is to just write properly myself. (Note: I don't always write everything properly. Sometimes, I may be in a hurry, or just not concerned about doing so. I do know grammer pretty well, though. I have written several published works (but I am not willing to state my pen-name on here, so please don't ask.)

This should be:

Bisexual females are "accepted" or sought after because it is believed to be trendy, hip, or currently "required" to be so. It is actually tougher to be a straight girl in present time than it is to be a bisexual male. How fucked up is that?

Notice that the paragraph is three different sentences. Notice each sentence is one complete thought. Notice each sentence begins with a capital letter. While the last sentence could have used an exclamation point rather than a question mark, it is better to choose one punctuation mark, than it is to use one or more. To use more than one puncuation mark is the exception to the rule. You don't have to capitalize words simply for the sake of emphasis.

*I don't know whether or not it is tougher to be a bisexual girl, than it is to be a bisexual male. Perhaps, each aspect is tough in its own right, but for different reasons. What I do know is that in certain areas of the U.S.A. it appears (at least on the surface) to be easier to be a bisexual female; but I'm not female so I really don't know. What I do know is that it can be quite difficult to be a bisexual male. Males have to deal with heterosexual-bravado. "If you don't play sports, you're not a man." is one of the many things often indoctrinated into the unwritten "man-code." Okay, so there really is no code; and yet it is one often times shoved or forced down a male's throat.

*I have had a tremendous ammount of difficulty being a bisexual man. My mother wants me to be married to a woman and have children. (Neither of those is what I want {or need} for myself right now.) In high school, I played soccer because according to my dad it was "the guy thing to do." I totally sucked at it; didn't want to play it in the first place (after all I am a nerd, not a jock.) Guys played sports, guys didn't cry. And above all "men should not lay with men." I can't do like my straight friends do when they see a hot girl; whistle, or walk over to her and flirt with her right there on the spot. (One of my straight friends was flirting with a waitress at Steak And Shake one day. Earlier, on a different day, I had seen a cute waiter. Could I have flirted with him? You tell me, what would be the repurcussions of that?) When I see a cute guy, I can't whistle at him, and walk over to him right there on the spot. A bisexual girl (who was currently wanting a female relationship) would probably just walk this off, if she was being flirted on by a man. But what if I had flirted with that waiter and he was straight and homo-phobic. If it was reversed and you were in my place, and wanting to flirt with a woman, what would be the repurcussions of that?

 

just going to say this. personally i think sex between two men is HOT. i actully would want to be one of those men. second Bi men is even hotter becuse then like me we could both oggle pritty ppl together and he/she would understand me better.
third i have lots and lots of friends who claim to be Bi-sexuall, I don`t know if they all are but some of them are about a tird of them are definitly male. so like others have said i think alot of ppl actully are more ore less bisexuall they just don`t admitt to it ore think about it. this i think is becuse we are still getting used to the idea of free right to love whom ever we want to. the generations who thought it to be a deases and perverst is still very active all around us so it`s difficult to get around it. but if your in places where ppl are like you ore you can feel safe being who you are i think it will be a lot easier to just being you. cuse then there wont be anyone who will judge you and you wont have as much doubt from ppl trying to convince you to "fit in."
after all who we fall in love whit has nothing to do whit gender, who we are attracted to might.
sorry i rambeld alot. hope no one took offence, im rather out spoken sorry ^.^;

 

You don't have to apologize for stating your mind. If someone takes offense to your beliefs that is not your fault. It may help you in the future to use more phrases like "In my opinion..." or "I believe/think that..." or things of that sort a little more often. In my opinion you were on the right track of expressing your feelings appropiately when you said "I think sex between two men is HOT."

Also your usage of the words "I don't know..." In my opinion these words are underused. There is nothing wrong with not knowing something; and there is nothing wrong when you admit that you don't know something.
However I disagree that "we are still getting used to the idea of free right to love whomever we want to." We're always free to love whomever we want to; societal rules have never dimminished that fact.

 

thanks thats nice to hear.francly im not to often in forums and chats so i don`t have much experience to it. and the reson i joind the hip forums was to get tips and share others life experiences. im kind of gender confused/conflicted im trying to figure it all out. this involve being staight/gay/bi.
thats why i like to learn more what is okej to say and what others might take offence over. i do not want to offend anyone. so thanks again also for your advice ^.^

on the matter of free love. you might be right but i feel that there still are alot of ppl who won`t accept it as something normal to love someone of the same gender,i can`t remember how manytimes i`ve heard ppl say its not natural when its actully very natural.it happens all the time in nature. mostly becuse the older generation and still remeber the time not to long ago when it was considerd a disieasand sinnful to be gay. atleast that is my experience about it. it might be diffrent for others in other places. i just think there just are still to many prejudgeces around about being gay.
i would like it to be just as free and normal to be gay or bi as being streight.

but i do think the world has changed and its becoming more and more accepting. ^.^

 

As far as your curiosity goes. I personally knew I was bisexual at a young age. I kissed both a boy and a girl when I was seven. The boy hit me... but kissed me again a week later, himself. The girl, well, we just became friends for a while after that. But I do know what its like to be confused. The only advice I have there is to take time to think (or pray, if you're the religious type) until you discover who you are. This isn't always easy, but its worth it in the end. Try to avoid the "Why am I feeling this way?" questions, and focus more on the "How can I reconcile my feelings to myself?" or "Who can I ask for advice about how I am feeling?" or "What can I do to make my life happier?" I have problems with this myself, but more often than not, the "Why?" questions keep you stuck; wheras when you ask different questions you can get out of the rut a little more easily.

But to touch on your quote above... There are always going to be people who won't accept things they don't like as normal. Also, you are also somewhat right, the world as a whole has become more accepting; or a better word would be "tolerate." But there is still a lot of fighting to do; Iran is one of the worst places in the modern world to be a homosexual or bisexual. Two men were executed by hanging in Novemember of 2005 for being homosexual. The Iranian military uses very "inhamane" practices against people who either are or percieved to be homosexual or bisexual (I won't go into detail here, it can be quite gruesome, but you can read about it in the spring issue of Winq magazine, if you want.) In the U.S.A same-sex marriages are currently granted by only five of the 50 states (Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont), one federal district (i.e. Washington D.C.), and one Indian tribe (The Coquille Indian Tribe.) In New York, Rhode Island, and Maryland, same-sex marriages are recognized, but not performed.

Of course same-sex marriage isn't the only issue we have to deal with. We also have to fight for LGBT student rights in ALL schools, religious or otherwise; especially in regards to their safety, despite their sexual orientation. The Matthew Shepherd Act signed by Obama appears to be a step in that direction; let's just hope it is kept. Also in my opinion, DOMA (The Defense of Marriage Act) which descibes marriage as far as federal law is concerned as only an act by a man and a woman, should be repealed. Heterosexual couples recieve federal benefits after marriage, that same-sex partners do not receive after marriage even if they marry in a state that gives them the same State benefits awarded to hetero-sexual married partners.

 

It is really important to be true to yourself. There is no pressure to choose sides. I find myself attracted to both sexes. There is something beautiful about the male and the female image. But I am in a monogamous relationship with a man (as a woman). My bisexuality is explored more in fantasy than in reality and I am ok with that.

 

okej, im from Sweden, i live in sweden so im not all to up on what hapens in the us,
but sometimes there are news and documenteries about gay rights even here and that is what i get to base alot of my information of the us on. i do try to keep up whit what happens. it pains me to know ppl can be so horrible to eatchoter that they do those kind of things that they did in irak, i just don`t understand how you can wieve anothe human that way.
in sweden it was not to long ago they where having a heated debate over adoptions and gay marriges,
i think they are still debating over the ecual rights, but you can be a foster parent and be tryed for adoption so i geuss its on the move in the right direction.and you can register partnership here i think they are still debating over the right to marry in churches. hopefully this will become a right to. ^.¨not that im religus really but even i would like to marry in a church whit a preist, if i where ever to marry. they are very pritty buildigs and nice tradition so everyone should have the right to if they are a member of an congregation.
eather way im glad to know things have changed abitt more sens i last checkt but i would love it if it was an equal right everywhere. not just some few contrys ore states.. but everywhere.

 

as for my own orientation,i am attracted to men, but most of the time i want to be a man attracted to men ore anything else just not a women,it just feels wrong and acward for me to imagen myself in my current body and gender intimate whit anyone.make it abitt difficult to figure out. i do think im bisexuall though specially lately. cuse i do know about one girl i`ve resently meet through my hobbies, she is kind of young unfortunally, but she is very androgynous, and looks more like a boy. and she is so cute like that my heart speeds abitt and i blush thinking abut her apperence. and sens i know im attracted to some men to well... thing is i prefer them adrogynous no matter of gender, anyway i`ve rambled enought. im greatful for ppl lissening it helps to figure things out just doing that. ^.^so thanks everyone.

 

I don't know what LGBT laws are like in Sweden. I'll study up on that and Message you later, if you don't mind) However in the U.S. we have a doctrine in our constitution that deems "Seperation between State and Church." This is more often than not an ideal, rather than something that is actually practiced. But, this doctrine of seperation of *Church and State (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States ) is why we have what is known as "Civil Marriages" in the U.S. Even if quote unquote "gay" marriage were legal in all of the fifty states this would not force any church to marry a same-sex couple, as some of the religious leaders seem to believe. In reality, however, those couples could get married in a Court in front of a judge. Some churches that are more tolerant toward same-sex couples may decide to allow those couples to marry. This would be the Churches' choice.

The only middle ground some same sex partners have in the U.S. is what is known as a Domestic Partnership. But this does not equal marriage, in any stretch of the imagination.

<<<Also, in my opinion, relationships shouldn't just be built around attractions. There are other things to factor in; the most obvious one is love, of course, but also, do you get along with the person? (you may think that goes with love, but not necessarily, you can love someone you wouldn't get along with on a daily basis), do you complement each other (oil and water is never a good match), do you like at least 5 of the same things. (The more things you both enjoy, the more you things you can enjoy together.) (Are you capable of giving each other space without becoming jealous or needy?) Those are just a few things I've listed out for myself with the help of my former therapist. Also, you may discuss where you would each like the marriage to evolve to. You may want to get married, and your partner may not want to. You may need to ask yourself if you capable of forming a compromise or some sort of resolution if that occurs. Anyways, thats sort of me just thinking out loud, but if its any comfort to you, there are gending changing surgeries in the modern world that can help you become more masculine... but if I were in you're in shoes I'd think about it a long time (at least a year) before I made any changes, because those surgeries can be quite costly. Also, I don't want this to sound isulting, because I don't mean it that way, but make sure that you aren't wanting to change to a man's body because you are attracted to a woman, and because society deems heterosexuality as moral, legal, or ethical, or whatever. If you do make this change, make sure its because you feel the "gender identity" of a male, and that that is the primary reason for it. The way I have heard this is expressed is "I feel like a man in a woman's body." But anyway that's just my two cents of advice (<<<hmmm... I would have thought my advice was worth more than that, lol.)

 

The problem is, real life aint like HF, people

I know exactly what the OP means. It's because most people are plastic shits. I'm strait, or I suppose "pansexual", as I've seen it called.... not opposed to guys, but I consider myself strait, and as a general rule am not attracted to guys. I know like..... 5 people, that I can think of, from my whole life, that I would tell this in person, not counting my close family, who I really don't think would care one way or the other.

If a guy is bi, he's just gay and should be avoided. If a chick's bi, that's cool, maybe she'll call all her super hot bi girlfriends and they'll all have a party on my dick together.

 

You sound interesting. Do you happen to have Facebook? By the way, I'm part Swedish!

 

There are so many problems with this post, I'm not even sure where to start. First of all, (1.) how exactly do you define "plastic shit" anyway? What do you mean by that expression. But more importantly (2.) "If a guy is bisexual, this does NOt necessarily mean that he is gay. Yes I know there are some gay guys that say they are bisexual, but the majority of people who identify as bisexual are in truth, just that. They may prefer a guy over a girl at a given point in time, but this does NOT mean that they lose their attraction to woman. (3.) And it seems to me that you also seem a little bit too much attached to your wanker. (4.) It appears that you have read very little of the post. This thread sort of evolved into more than just "happy fragging" into a deeper conversation. I guess that's all I will rant on for now.

 

Do you need a refresher course in sarcasm?

 

According to most psychologists sarcasm is a form of attepting to hide one's true feelings behind a wall of humor. Not that I care whether that's the case or not, but I suppose I just did not notice the sarcasm because of how I was feeling that day. Did you know that the word "sarcasm" comes from a Greek word "sarcasmos" which means "tearing flesh"?

Also, here is a little bit of a more intellectual form of sarcasm: see if you get the joke: "Justice will only exist where those not affected by injustice are filled with the same amount of indignation as those offended."--Plato