Ok Im interested...

I heard about the JWH-018 laced herb blends that you can buy legally.. so I checked it out online, and I found a site that says its a supplier of the pure form, which sounds more appealing, the site says its for scientific use only or something.. Im just wondering maybe it might be too potent? is it really safe too smoke? and also it says on the site JWH-073 is now available what is it? I want to try it but I dont want to do something stupid

 

Is it safe to smoke?

Well, afaik, there have been no deaths related to smoking JWH-018, but as for long term effects.. who knows?
That's the game you play at with RC's; no studies have been done proving they are safe, at least not for most of them.

That being said, I have smoked JWH-018 and I have not died yet. I wouldn't worry about it too much, but I believe there is some theory that JWH-018 is carcinogenic (someone care to confirm?).

 

seems like they are worse for you than just plain weed. that's what i'm sticking with

 

I have bought about 10 grams of 99% pure so far. I have been smoking it like its pot (2-10 times a day) for a little over 2 months. The only side effect iv noticed is slight chronic headaches. Not bad ones, just annoying.


BUT

Don't smoke to much!!!! you only need 1-3 Mg on a bowl for 2 people. Note, there is 1000mg/Gram. So just put enough to notice its even on there if you look closely. I know that is a horrible method of measuring it. but through trial and error you will develop visual Mg scale. (lol)

Its extremely easy (if you don't know what your doing) to get the "fear", and trust me there is a reason they call it that.

If you do get the "fear" don't go to the hospital, just wait it out, you wont die. You will just never smoke that much again, i promise.

effects of the "fear" from JWH are Panic, Heart palpitations, Increased heart rate, Nausea, Vomiting, Odd Physical Sensations.

If you want to try it, and its your first time. I recommend just going and buying some spice at your local head shop.

If you wanna buy the pure. get the jwh-073, its a bit less intense (by weight) if you ask me.

LMFO, as i was finishing this post a Gram arrived at my door via express!! haha

 

The first time I smoked Spice Diamond, I thought it was pretty good. After about the 3rd or 4th time the novelty started to wear off and I was wondering why I'm smoking this overpriced ($45/3g!!) chemically treated "herbal blend" which, IMO is only slightly better than the mid-high-mids I normally get, instead of the real shit. Like most things I try, I wanted to give it a second chance so I scored some pure JWH-018. First, I took 11mg orally, which should have knocked me on my ass according to the dosage charts, but it produced a very mild buzz for about 2 hours (placebo?). I weighed out 4mg more and sprinkled it on an almost beat bowl and... it felt like the last lil hit left in the bowl... nothing more, nothing less.

I either received inactive product from a highly reputable vendor, or my tolerance is astronomical. Either way.. fuck! JWH is not living up to its hype for me and with talk about it being "highly carcinogenic" I think it's safe to conclude that this RC is a bomb.

 

Ah, I've just received confirmation that my "pure" JWH is indeed, shit. If I can find some legit stuff while it's within my budget, I'll probably give it one more go 'round. But today, I'll be spending my $$$ for the real green

On the other hand, from what I've seen from Spice I think it's a great alternative for those on probation and such. Spice DID work, it just lost its.. well, spice, after a few goes, but I'm a green fiend so I'm sure tolerance plays a part. If you can get legit pure JWH it's less costly than Spice/other blends and you can measure your own dose, so it may just be the right thing for you. I just haven't had the best luck with it so far.

 

OH and I forgot to say, there IS a cross-tolerance with THC.

But if you have pure jwh you can still get higher than you would with weed. Promise. JWH in 99% pure form, is over 4000% more potent than 99% pure THC.

 

Keep smokin the herb

 

JWH 018 is WAY more cost efficient than weed, and the high is better IMO.

My tolerance to it is really jacked up atm, I'll smoke 15-20 mg just to get me decently high (when I first started it would take me 2-3 mg to get stoned)... and I REALLY need to take a tolerance break but my self control is not good enough yet.

ALSO - to answer my previous question from a while ago, yes the white JWH 018 is way more potent than the brown shit (the brown shit still gets the job done though).

 

yea...i've smoked jwh-018 until i saw a cartoon version of myself dancing to the rhythm of my footsteps, and i survived

i've never read that it's carcinogenic, but i'd doubt it. and the air is carcinogenic.

 

considering it's been used recreationally for what like less than 5 years and realistically maybe 2-3 I think it's hard to draw many conclusions about long term problems and toxicity.

It does not appear people will overdose in terms of death but it seems some people have had some panic attacks.

 

yep I've had a friend who was an ultra newbie to weed and he got too baked on 018 to the point where he was yelling he was dying, I just made sure he was breathing alright and everything went fine.

 

It takes me high doses to get really baked off it, but when you do get baked you're waisted. It kinda gives me a headache and sometimes turns my stomach. It's great for me to lace my weed so I don't have to smoke as much.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdTw596Ok68"]YouTube- Built to Spill: center of the universe
listen closely

"i don't like this air, but that doesn't mean i'll stop breathing it"

you don't HAVE to smoke JWHxxx
we kinda have to breathe

 

i was just trying to make the point that we're all already dying :coffee:

and believe me, i wasn't forced to smoke any jwh-018

 

Yeah, you're right. I read it on Bluelight, but I was wondering how anyone could come to that conclusion when there has been virtually no legitimate research done on it?

But everything gives you cancer these days so smoke it up, I say! :sifone:

 

jwh probably isn't very carcinogenic. I prefer weed for sure, but shit works, and I'm pretty sure it's no where near as bad as cigarettes.

 

its relatively safe, just dont do to much and no its not "too potent" just smoke a very little amount and see how you feel after a few minutes. Very similar to a weed high.

 

i have tried the jwh-018 through the sice gold and dimond range and thought it was prity good - i have no interest in buying it in pure form tho. more into my proper psycadelics at the moments like 5-meo-DMT 4-aco-DMT and just recevied AMT which i have yet to try for the first time. see my post in this thread and give ure thoughts on what i say.

 

I think Near-future tests and study's will show that JWH is much more harmful than its natural twin. Just another argument to legalize.