Psychedelic Bump

Bump for some Lucy and Molly at Pretty Lights on Saturday night

And also I have taken 2ce many times and I have never felt any fear or negative psychological effects from it and I have taken up to 40 mg. It just isnt introspective enough for me to start thinking in irrational thought patterns. Its more of a visual "candy" psychedelic to me and is alot of fun but lacks the depth and complete mindfuck qualities that I come to expect when I trip. So I would say 2ce would be great for a first timer, tho I know there are gentler 2cs out there, he should be just fine with 2ce.

 

2c-e isn't introspective for me, i just always get a "why the fuck did i do this" response from it unless i take a very low dose.

though i must say that my last experience with it [at an unknown dose, probably between 10 and 20mg, and later ~25mg of 2c-c] was absolutely amazing.

 

This was my first dose and it was a POWERFUL +++ . . . writhing in bed with a look of gleeful shock frozen on my face as music transformed from sound into electricity coursing through the transistors in my soul

too bad it's got that annoying body load, and for some reason I didn't like the comedown. it wasn't harsh or anything . . . but kind of a bummer nonetheless for some reason. who knows.

 

bump for 300mg 4meopcp up my bum 3 minutes ago. didnt feel nearly as bad as i thought it would, being the first time i put something up my arse and all

 

300mg! you are in for a ride

 

lol shootin up the shitter. i'm sure you'll find some kind of "hole" with that dose.

 

WOO WOO. 4 meo pcp is a junkie drug I enjoy it tremendously more so than ketamine, but I don't really care to have it in my life at this time.

 

i've felt fear on 20 mg 2ce combined with marijuana and pink floyd that was too loud at the peak. i guess you could also say i was overwhelmed or confused, but scared definitely comes to mind. i was scared that i was TOO fucked up. that i would never come down or be "normal" again. i knew i should, but i didn't see how it was possible. i didn't completely freak or anything, i kinda just turned down the music and calmed down

i started with 12 mg (but i had tried shrooms and L several times) and felt it was enough, but i could have taken more. i didn't wish i had taken more during the experience though.
i started another friend at 14 mg - he loved it and said it was plenty
i started another at 12, then 14, then 17. he said he needed 17 to really get into it.
i will start my other friend with probably 14 mg.

no harm in starting your BF too low though, maybe he'll be more interested and want to see what a 'real' dose will do. or maybe he'll just feel bodyload with minimal psychedelic effects and call it quits.
i say go for 13-15 mg.

have you already done it?

 

For me and the way I always dose new people unless they beg me is I like to give them a good solid dose, i often find shocking your system with the stuff leads to a more profound experience than working your way up. Why start in the shallow end when there is a diving board on the deep end?

Doug Stanhope "The key to drugs is to excess in moderation. Don't take a cap of mushrooms and see colors, take a whole bag and see GOD."

 

^^i can appreciate that, but i can also appreciate being safe and careful. if you don't know how to swim, you shouldn't jump off the diving board into the deep end (unless you have a very experienced swimmer nearby and you don't care about the possibility of freaking out and "dying")

 

To me learning information and reading trip reports and preparation is the swimming part of psychedelics. Sweetblasphemy makes the dude sound like he's intelligent and well grounded so I think a 15 mgs and up trip he may find challenging which is a good thing. I think below 15 mgs is playing in the 'kiddie pool.' I often like, maybe even prefer low doses of various psychedelics if I have some functional purpose (concerts, playing guitar, hiking, self analysis, etc) but to get the full experience I really think a solid dose is the only way to go.

Ultimately it's up to him and her, just adding my view on the matter. I don't even consider myself that well grounded but enjoy solid doses of psychedelics for the full experience.

 

being "well grounded" isn't always a good thing with psych use...a lot of "well grounded" people have a hard time letting go.

2c-e can just be very anxiogenic for me, so i'm VERY glad it wasn't my first, as i find it to be difficult. 4 grams of mushrooms my first trip got me to a ++++ and made me who i am today

 

that's what i'm saying man, 4 grams is like doing a backflip going head first and just being submerged into the psychedelic experience.

 

i didn't really feel it, then next thing i know i could barely talk. my friends who had all taken much less than me were running around laughing, but i was off on my own, outside on a beautiful hillside by my friend's pond.

 

~25 mg 2c-i
headspace was a little different, very giggly, no visuals. really just wanted to be left alone. called it an early night.

 

^^^have you tried other 2cxs besides -p and -i? seems like you might have on hell of a (natural?) tolerance.

 

i threw up all day and night. very sick, tried to eye out 300mg seems like it may have been 300-400 now. start lower than me everyone. i did too much. too much..

 

Yeah no kidding 100-200mg is considered high . . .

 

Yup... I've had 2c-e at least 20 times in my life (my sweet spot is around 37mg) and this is how it seems to me. It's always been relatively gentle especially compared to 2c-i, and I've never had any fear or anxiety on it (I do have a touch of natural anxiety at times). The one time I ate shrooms, I ate 1/8 and they weren't terribly potent but I did at a point get caught into a weird/negative thought loop that I had a hard time pulling out of. The bf isn't prone to depression or anxiety at all, he's actually a pretty naturally happy-go-lucky kinda guy... which, of course could all change in a second after it's been ingested, but how else will we know?

We ended up having a change of plans yesterday, but he is still on board and we are dosing this afternoon around 2:00. It's a beautiful day and he is ready to go! And I'm ready to be an awesome trip buddy/tour guide. Updates to follow!

 

i remember at various times during my trip my girl was asking me if i needed to go to the hospital and all i could do is try to mutter the words no no no no no no no hospita.. every sip of water i took came back up 45 minutes later. i under estimated this one. but i did get some good out of it. one word. existance. sums it up. or maybe another word, 'note'.