Methylone/Butylone - Not so good...

So, me and my friend love to roll. I'm too sketched out to try pills (irrational since I do RC's, but whatever), so I always buy molly from a close friend. I'd read that if you mixed Methylone with Butylone it would be as close to MDMA as possible, without actually taking MDMA. So, me and my buddy ordered ourselves a gram of each.

It got here last Friday. I started off by testing to see if I reacted well to it - everything was fine. I decided I wanted to try each of them on their own first. I started with the Methylone. Everything was great, but it wasn't anywhere near MDMA. I took about 550mg that night (too much, I know). The comedown and the next few days after that night weren't all that bad.

Later on I went to my friends house to try the Butylone/Methlone combo. I started off the night with 200mg of Methylone (parachuted), and took 100mg of Butylone (also parachuted) two hours or so into my roll. The effects at first were amazing. It was just like a good 150mg of molly (although I haven't rolled in a few months). But things started to go downhill when the Methylone wore off. My heart was racing, I felt like my heart was missing beats/beating too hard, had some chest pain, and shortness of breath. I thought I was having a heart attack (although I'm sure it was just a panic attack as I'm fine now). It was the scariest thing that has ever happened to me. Much worse than the worst trip I've ever had with psychedelics.

My friend dosed MUCH higher than me, as he seems to have a higher tolerance than me. Looking back on it now I feel guilty for not stopping his crazy doses. He took around 600mg of Methylone and 300+mg of Butylone that night. He said it was better than MDMA ever was, and was REALLY rolling (which he never seems to do).

I left his house to get some sleep. I got a phone call at 3AM from my same friend saying he was burning up and his skin looked all blotchy. I told him to wait it out and if it gets worse call me back. I went back to bed. I get another phone call at 7AM telling me he's having some of the more vivid hallucinations he's ever had (this friend of mine has dosed 50mg+ of 2C-E and has tripped on shrooms). His heart was racing and he's turning really pale. I try to clam him down and tell him he's just taken too much, he'll be all right in a few hours. I go back to sleep. At 7:30 I get a phone call from his grandmother, telling me he is missing and just bolted out of the house, leaving the door wide open. Now I start to panic. I text my other friend to see if he knows where he is. He tells me they are in the ER!

The hospital is about 3 minutes from my house, so I jump out of bed, get dressed, and run over there. He's sitting in a bed with an I.V, and a shit load of cables and tubes running from him. His heart rate was at 170 the doc says, but it's down to 135 now. His fingers and knees were turning blue, and he was having some really horrible hallucinations. I don't know if it was Stimulant psychosis or what, but it sure was scary.

He's fine now, but won't be taking any Butylone again. We both have pretty good experience with stimulants. Nothing like this has happened before. Since I had that panic attack or whatever it was, my chest has felt tight and I keep focusing on my breathing. When I smoke weed it gets intensified and makes my weed highs unenjoyable, but I think I'm getting over it as time goes by. I just wanted to share my experience with you guys so this doesn't happen again.

*EDIT

I don't have any history of panic attacks, although I do get a bit anxious when I smoke weed.

 

That sucks about your friend, I would hate to have anytihng like that happen to me. Or to a friend.

Stick to Molly

 

No offense but sounds pretty stupid and cases like this why they are banned in the uk.
None of these substances are MDMA I dont know why everyone tries to chase that MDMA buzz through these compounds (well I do but I think its playing with fire mixing and matching) I actually probably prefer methylone by itself to MDMA these days. I dont go out to raves/clubs much as of late and I find methylone better suited for the home enviornment. The tactile stimulation when it comes to like sex is superior in methylone than MDMA in my opinion, or at least my ability to perform.

Mephedrone is a bit more energetic than methylone just so you know. Just don't be dumb again

 

Yup, that whole night was nothing but dumb.

I've tried Mephedrone, too short, not really for me. Methylone is much better imo. And yeah, I'm basically done experimenting with RCs now. Only RC ill be ordering in the future is Methylone and 2C-E.

 

was your buddy freaking out in the hospital?

 

He said as soon as he started talking tot he nurse he felt much better. His heart rate was around 135 while resting by the time I saw him. I think just the fact that he knew he was going to get help really calmed him down.

 

What treatment did they give him? Just IV?

 

Yeah, just an I.V and the stuff to monitor your pulse etc. They did some blood work and took a sample of his piss as well. He's fine now, just getting some well needed rest

Also, I don't know much about Xanax, but would that help to calm yourself in that kind of situation? I know some people take it if they're having a bad trip.

 

So basically they hydrated him and made him wait it out and made him spend $$ on tests.

That's shitty But sometimes it is hard to wait it out on your own.

Xanax would probably help, I have never had to abort a trip, so idk.

 

Hmmmm... Taking Xanax would probably calm you down, I don't know if taking a benzo with an elevated heartrate like that is the best idea, Xanax has made me fall asleep by itself.

A beer or two would probably be helpful.

 

We are in Canada, so it didn't cost us a cent.

 

Lucky! I fucking hate paying for health care when other countries offer it free.

 

Doesn't cost a cent? LOL.Check your tax rate in comparison. And if I want an MRI, I can get one in 3 days, not 3 months.

 

Sounds like someone's a bit bitter. I don't mind paying more in taxes if everyone can get health care

 

I've seen this happen to a few people on mephedrone but never m1 or b1. They usually get really hot and flushed and panicy, and the knees and feet particularly start to get ppurplish blue with red hive like rashes splotching out on the forearms. The standard treatment is IV ativan and a check of vitamin levels, there is usually a severe drop in B12 that needs pushed back up. The ativan, aside from calming nerves, helps restrict the severe vasoconstriction caused by the meph. If it's not treated promptly there can be severe nerve damage to the extremeties causing a risidual numbness or tinglyness in the fingers and toes. Do you have a multi test kit (merke,marquis,simon) to test the chems? Are you positive there wasn't any mephedrone cross contamination from the supplier? This sounds like text book mephedrone toxicity but other beta ketones or stimulants can cause similar constriction. Mephedrone is really fuckin dangerous, I've had more than one personal friend enjoy a $20,000 stay in the hospital because of that bad stimulant.

 

This may seem a stupid question but is a parachute the same as a bomb?

Also, I mix and match all the time when I trip and nothing like that has happened to me. Stick to MDMA.

 

wow i am just new to this sort of stuff, i have been reading a few forums and i have no idea what any of this stuff is lol. would anyone like to give me a little tutorial lol

 

butylone seems pretty nasty.

but i've gotten tachicardia from methylone that was pretty bad [though it was actually methylone + ketamine with a little adderall dosed about 10 hours before]