Relating to others without appearance

Today more than ever people, although most will not admit doing so, are judged on outward, trivial things. If one doesn't dress by the modern standards, enforced only by vain newsstand magazines or vapid television personalities, they are unappealing to most. If one doesn't make enough money they may be undesireable to the sex of their interest. As appearance becomes increasingly critical when trying to relate or convey to others, one's individual branch of the collective human soul becomes shallower and shallower, becoming reduced to nothing more than a shallow puddle, devoid of any reflection. We are all guilty in some way, shape, or form of judging others in this manner at some point in our lives. Thus I am curious, are there still people out there who do not relate to others by means of these ways? Are there people who could care less about how much one makes, what they wear, if they own the latest thing, or whether or not they socially network? Any thoughts? Peace

 

Of course there are. If you don't like mainstream society, drop out. Tell them to go fuck themselves. You won't be the first or the last.

 

You are a very brave spirit my friend. I will remember your words. I am curious to see that there are those people still out there. How would one go about 'dropping out'?

 

I haven't done anything dramatic. I'm just myself. If my peers don't like what they see, they don't have to spend time with me except for what our jobs require. I do my job well, and I spend the rest of my time doing what I want. I have a very small number of friends who are highly accepting of others. I don't jump through any hoops to please people that I really don't care to hang with.

This would be much more difficult if I didn't have a supportive wife. She has no love affair with mainstream society either. We see all its flaws. We see the social games as bullshit.

 

The gospel -

More media outlets and sources were created to increase the multiplicity of opinions but instead it has polarized society into thinking only one way – more is not better


Hotwater

 

That's fantastic. And I'm glad you have the support that you do. I act in the same manner you mentioned, I just have a hard time relating to others when I mention such beliefs as "social games are bullshit" and "modern society is built on a foundation of synthetic rules and guidelines that make you think you need what trivial things others above you have to offer." It doesn't sit well with most people in this day and age as most are always too busy trying to gain more, rather than thinking, "maybe I don't need that." I think I come off as nihilistic. Though I don't mind as I am somewhat comfortable with my ideas

 

It has polarized us into one of two ways. Is that what you meant?

 

One of the things I like about getting to know someone over the internet is that most of the appearances are filtered out and you get to know them simply by what they post. Not that you know them any better than real life, but it's interesting.

 

Awesome thread. I agree completely. I personally can say I have no real friends right now where I'm at and probably hardly any sexual appeal to the ladies (luckily for me I found someone who thinks like me!). But seriously. I'm not that well off, and I dress like Andrew WK or something (you know, jeans and a solid color T) and like the above poster said, I really don't feel like doing all sorts of shit to 'prove' some fake rank about who I am. Why should I have to?

Oh well it is the material realm right? Either buy into it or accept your individuality... lol

 

who's andrew wk? and how does he relate to the time honored classic of jeans and tshirts?

i can't figure out what's acceptable behavior or fashion, so i do what i like. i don't really think it's that hard. if someone doesn't like me, they don't like me and that's that.

 

I took the time to consciously unravel my reactions to the environment to their lowest common denominator. I can sense for instance if the emotional reaction that I am having to an individual has an element of physiological mandate, for instance, eye popping chestacles, and I take these considerations into account.
Other than that I dismember conditioning through inviting uncomfortable circumstance and navigating my way through via sound principle as opposed to tradition. It allows one to see things that were previously prohibited by convention.

 

There are quite a few people around here that couldn't care less about any of that... of course, I live out in the sticks.

 

iv'e got a really good friend who has quit a few facial tattoo's, one including "CRUEL WORLD" across his two cheeks, "DEVIL CHILD" above his eye brows, satanic ruins on his forhead... ect.. but, he's is the most sweetest guy iv'e ever met. he's also a white supremacist.. BUT.. he's a really nice guy despite him and i having different ideas on things.. he gets judged like a MFer but.. i guess what im tryna say is.. it's like a christian and an athiest being able to be friends.. just because your ideals are different, doesnt cause for one to not befriend the other..

blah.

 

Most people do judge by appearances. Sorry that is the way of the world.

It also depends on the circumstances.

For a job interview in my company you best impress me.

If a girl wants to fuck me I have even higher standards.

To be my friend however, it requires honesty, a sense of humor, and an open mind. That is about it.

I do not care how much money you make.

 

interesting topic. A way to 'drop out' for certain is to not watch television. I have seriously limited my television viewing within the past year and feel I've become alot more perceptive and aware to certain things around.(LOL makes it sound like a narcotic) television is a one way street its only input, there is no interaction, sure you can discuss with your friends the girl that made out with 5 guys in a night on jersey shore, or the 'star' that got eliminated from dancing with the stars, or the girl who gave a penguin a blowjob for $50,000 but I think just focusing on all those false 'idols' and ridiculous premises does no good In actualizing your life and reality.

When it comes to true individuality though I think it becomes a bit harder to discern that these days. marketing has become really effective and in many instances individuality has becomes conformity. People with tattoos especiAlly but piercings even dreadlocks and other seemingly oddities has really become commonplace and a way for people to fit in. Social networking has as well. I thought about this and the fact facebook beat out myspace shows to me people prefer conformity, the fact there was like a competition at all and I think myspace was way more artistic in its setup. It may not be the best example but it tells me people are kind of scared of themselves a bit and the need for acceptance is strong. Considering how popular myspace was I think it is something pretty unique. you have a site where you can have your own background, own music playlist, own stories and journal entries in their blog system, short videos, etc. All of that says alot about an individual. But I digress...

Some people choose to dropout by not wearing name brand clothes, eating chain fast food, not supporting certain practices etc.

This little community we have here I find pretty cool and the ability to exchange ideas, music, problems, victories,and stories in an informal manner when alot of us would probably not do the same in the real world is good.

 

i don't care about those things, but i still value a nice ass.

was he that guy that recorded the same cheesy rock song under 35 different titles about 8 years ago?

 

man, i have no idea. i'm afraid to look him up, should i end up being really annoyed.

 

yeah, it was him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwW4Vvp1YnY"]YouTube- Andrew W.K-It's Time To Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccfbPQNMbg"]YouTube- Andrew W.K. - Party Hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmY1ubPiLF8"]YouTube- Andrew W.K.- She Is Beautiful

 

he hosts some kids show now i think where they destroy shit, that was one of the last new shows I saw on tv

 

i'm irritated just looking at him. i'm assuming listening to his music will really piss me off.