I would like to make one thread with all the terrible things coming from the south

I keep forgetting how many people left here during the gold rush of 1849, especially.

Also, a lot of Southern rednecks moved to Alaska during the building of the big oil pipeline.

Why? It's attached to Texas.

 

I would say Oklahoma is in fact more southern than the deep south even in Mississippi and Alabama. There's more of a divide there, and liberal centers. Even both racial and religiously there's more diversity. Oklahoma even in the cities is basically 90% conservative evangelical Christian, we hate the gays and federal government so much we're going to accidentally cite the wrong law and strip rights away from races and religion by accident from over excitement, kind of place.

 

I don't consider Oklahoma and Texas to be the South at all.
They are both Western to me. Everyone out here is a fat-ass wannabe cowboy with a 10 gallon hat who raises cattle, beats them with whips, and teaches their children to throw rocks at them.

 

Speaking broadly, it's more or less an urban/rural divide.
Urban regions tend to be rife with various culture and ideological thought due to a large population of people with different backgrounds, ethnicity and beliefs. Rural areas are more isolated with little to attract people, so they remain insular and get stuck with the same kind of thinking reinforced by generation after generation.

I don't understand why you think "New South" people "don't care to talk or think about the war".
If they are truly over it, doing so shouldn't bother them, and I think it's vital that it's discussed as much as possible. It's an important piece of U.S. history, the repercussions of which can still be felt to this day, as this thread exemplifies.

I think you misunderstood me, I don't consider religious belief or faith in something to be brainwashing in the slightest, I just don't think that kind of thing has a place in deciding federal/state legislation.

 

Current company excepted?

 

I don't know anyone here except for my sister, and neither of us are from here, and don't even know why we are here in the first place.

 

I'd just like to point out that the only good conservative is a fucking dead one.

 

Hey, I'm from the south, have never been called a redneck (and the town I live in - well, it's one hot mess of redneckedness and worse), and I'm majorly fun to hang out with most of the time. Is that good?

 

Well at least you are reasonable.

 

You'll do donkey

 

I'm going to hit you.

 

Yes, it is. It's also fair to think of it as an education divide. During the Industrial Revolution, people used to grow up on farms and move to the city to get jobs. Their kids got better educations and generally became more liberal than their parents. In many places we have a post-industrial flow from cities to suburban small towns and rural areas, and conservatism has rebounded.

That's just been my personal experience. I think there are two reasons for this. First, it's been a long time since the Civil War, and many people see little relevance in things that happened prior to World War II. Second, there are so many Northeasterners living in larger Southern cities that many have decided that the war is a subject that we should all stay off of, to avoid offending anyone over something that was settled so long ago. Discussions of racial issues tend not to go any further back in history than the civil rights movement of the 60's.

I understood your point, but I maintain that fundamentalism is intertwined with brainwashing and manipulation. Playing the cynical, manipulative sales pitch game is the cornerstone of religious fundamentalism and of political right-wing extremism. It's not a coincidence that you find a lot of the same people in both movements. I have seen these techniques in use, up close, many times.

 

In the 2000 election the Republican party asked for and received contact lists of church members from fundamentalist preachers. This led to the controversy of where the line belongs between religion and political activism for tax purposes. If a preacher stands up on Sunday morning and advocates for a political candidate, should he be denied a tax exempt status?

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Absolutely, it should be denied.

Even more common is a preacher telling the congregation that they are not really Christians if they vote for a Democrat. This is not much different from endorsing a specific candidate. Such a church is a hybrid religious and political entity.

 

Yeah, let's make up our minds, Is the church going to be sovereign from, or sovereign over the government.

 

Jesus even Al Jazeera picked up on the Texas textbook controversy. I love the one telling line "pushed through over 100 revisions without consulting a single historian"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ZgTLZ0oBI"]YouTube- Texas looks to rewrite history

 

My ex boyfriend
hehe

 

There is nothing wrong with the south everyone knows that every thing is up or down of the equator.

 

Oooooh I wish. Friggin' Glenn Beck was just given the key to his hometown city (approx. 40 miles north of Seattle) just a few months ago. My dad is the biggest redneck on the planet and when I was a kid we didn't live far from the city, either. I've in WA all my life and I had to move to the city proper to find a place to safely put down my liberal roots.