Girls/Women

They wrote that song 'shes blinding me with science' about KC.

 

i'm really a romantic at my core. i just embrace the unpleasant quirks of people finding their way.

 

I don't know why anybody would come here for a statistical analysis of anything.

 

i don't either, but it happens incessantly. i guess because some people prefer cold numbers of reality to the cozier, warmer and fuzzier personal stories of 'this chick i know."


i really do think that there are a lot of good people out there waiting for each other. but people keep making stupid decisions based on whatever bizarre new morality or standards society and our libidos dictate. so i wait, see a few good people stumble over each other and shake my head at the ones picking the wrong people and being miserable either because it didn't work out or they were rejected by their "ideal" potential mates.

 

this is well stated, but I'd like to add a few things.

one option is changing your geographic location. what are the current demographics where you live? are you competing with trust fund recipients a little too much? maybe look into moving to a place with a lower SES. there are plenty of fine hunnies in the hood. she might not be able to intellectualize everything with you, but maybe she could teach you some things about living.

another is to just man up, and employ a little bit of good old fashioned male dominance. don't worry about the other guys and the affection they receive. convince yourself you don't even want affection if you have to. you just want that bitch, and you're gonna make that happen. and some of the elements in doing this are treating her well, but also not putting up with her bullshit or putting her up on a pedestal.

don't put the pussy on a pedestal, no matter how hot.

confidence and being assured of things goes incredibly far with women.

 

lol. cher loves the pussy, he just wishes the women weren't attached to it...

 

This thread got way too pop sociological for me. Mixed in with the usual 'convince yourself of...' or 'be confident' self-help advice, courtesy of deviate.

Oh, sorry. And the 'pick up an art' blah blah, courtesy of lode The Gentleman.

The point is, if you have to do anything whatsoever (attitude-related or practical) that a bitch isn't doing for you, YOU'RE A CHUMP.

I don't care if you get the pussy or not.

 

I actually agree, but I try to be funny or nice, depending.

 

hey all I can say for certain is that I LOVE MY LADY! No i dont have the amount of cash that Trump does nor do I care! All I want is to live out my life with my beautiful wife!!
I love you my Pogi!!


ps Pogi is tagalog for sexy

 

Well, I'd say that I am humbled by your witty remark, but I'm not a very good liar. Perhaps I am a slight narcissist (after all, who isn't?), but you, sweetheart, have taken it to another level! Kudos... Pat yourself on the back... I'm sure that's not a practice you're unaccustomed to.

I was simply speaking my mind in a semi-satirical manner when I posted that, but if you want to blow it out of proportion and get all negative on my behalf, well I'm glad I could facilitate the discussion. It's interesting that I attempted to speak my mind on Hip Forums, yet this is the first reply to my ramblings... Ramblings that didn't ask for "good lady advice."

Go ahead and neg-rep me if you want, and show us all a complete narcissist, or even better... don't do it and think of yourself as a better man/woman/whatever...

 

i've been waiting for the post where you spill all of your deep rooted issues with women. you're more bitter than i thought.

 

Nah, here's bitter.

I used to be such a nice guy. When I was 16 or so most of my friends were girls. But I rarely had girlfriends, and whenever I started to feel somehting for someone I got the whole just friends speal while they went off and got fucked by someone who didn't give a shit about them like I did. Had my heart broken a few times by the same person. And eventually.. I just stopped giving a fuck. I realized that it was just a waste of life to spend your time trying to find someone to love, being kind to a person who does not see you as a man. Every moment of it exacerbating your own loneliness.

So I stopped giving a fuck. And now that I clearly don't give a shit about impressing them or trying my hardest to make them feel better when they're sad, girls all of a sudden like me. I started getting laid like all my cool friends who made fun of my kindness.

And that makes me think, fuck you woman-kind. You could have had me as a nice person. You could have had me before my heart went so raw with open sores it just eventually wore down into this bio-mechanical nub that keeps the rest of my body warm.

But now, I don't give a fuck. And if that's ever gonna change.. that woman will have to really try to get into my heart. Or you can just let me fuck you, then go home and tell your version of me 5 years ago about what an asshole I am while he sits there an holds your hand.


THATS bitter.

 

Sort of pathetic too, don't give up on the one thing.

 

Not so much giving up as being disillusioned.

 

you guys get bitter easily.
i got massively fucked around by the first guy i ever loved and he broke my heart muuuultiple times. over a period of years. he was constantly telling me he wanted me then dumping me then coming back. i slap myself now for letting him treat me like that but i don't blame all man-kind for his behaviour.
i just decided that would never happen again and moved on. after all not all people are dicks.

 

I'm gonna give you a hint in dealing with me. Take the concept out of what I say, then disregard the rest. I'm not really that bitter, but I do feel like it sometimes. For all the negative shit I am constantly saying I'm a very optimistic person.

I couldn't deal with being so negative all the time if I wasn't such an optimist.

 

All I really know so far is unfortunately being a nice guy does not get you far with girls/women and if a woman says listen to her, that you are actively pursuing, and you have not had sex or some form of physical intimacy yet and its not pertaining to some intellectual discussion, don't listen to her.

 

Round here where I'm from we have lots of peer to peer counceling networks and courses on the same. A few years back I found myself attracted to a woman that was heavily involved with cocounceling. And she to me. One of the first things she wanted to do was session with me. And I thought, okay. Sure. Almost immediately she was crying (a lot) in front of me, and that gave me the "Woah, wait a minute, wait a minute: WEIRD!" vibe. But I tried to just go with it and return the favor and get raw with some of my emotions too.

She was all kinds of fun and free and empathic and emotive and just really interesting. A few weeks on into a really fun relationship she started talking to me about "men's oppression", to which I , at first, had the reaction "Woah. Wait a minute: DUMB." We all know men are the oppressORS not the oppressed. But in fairly short order she managed to convince me that this society oppressed nearly everyone and then she proceeded to lay out most of the societal elements that have been laid out by guys in this thread. And man was I ever able to access a LOT of anger around these issues.

The way men and women treat each other in our society is totally, totally FAIL.

 

hey, baby, wanna get together?

i think a lot of guys don't know the difference between nice and doormat. i wouldn't date a doormat, either, i'd break the guy in half and he'd probably end up in counseling or prison or something. i never wanted that kind of responsibility. however, i would never waste my time with someone who wasn't nice to me. i don't need that.

 

You come across bitter and defensive to me. Maybe you can't see yourself or how you sound to others.