hppd from 2c-e?

^^^can't wait to try that one. what's a good dose in your opinion?

 

That's very interesting about the 4-AcO-DMT. I tried a low (or so I was told) dose of mushrooms for the first time recently, and there was definitely an afterglow for a few days where everything seemed better in the world, including myself. I've wondered if taking a somewhat higher dose and letting it "work its magic" could be beneficial to resetting an HPPDer's vision, but it's kind of debated, with some people saying it makes it worse.

 

I like 25 mg as a starting point. It is supposedly where it is about as intense as munching an eighth of dried shrooms... That's where the walls begin to unfold revealing an astral plane or something resembling a night sky filled with stars and colors. Tracers can't even be called that really... it's like 15 frames per second, but you're seeing 5 of them at a time...as in [arm, arm, arm, arm, arm] and each arm has a tracer coming off of it... the shit gets intense... for a little bit on 25 mg I lost all color vision... saw black and white only. No side effects except for a sensational body high with great euphoria... I think it was a taste of ego loss too but not a 'full breakthrough' I guess you could say. I found my self tripping very hard and hard to control my thoughts... I found myself saying "who am I as a person what should I be doing who am I inside?" but it was alright because I was really too high to give a fuck what I was thinking about...

Never tried anything less than 25 mg... Though I did try 11 snorted and I didn't trip at all but I did get a little high with very very light visuals.

You might like anywhere from 19-25 though from knowing your cautious ways. But realize that this is the cleanest drug I've ever taken, there were no side effects so even if you do end up tripping way hard it's not gonna be taking the toll that 2C-E would be.

 

Really... I was considering taking a sub-tripping dose and seeing if that cured my friedness at all for science just so I could report back with my findings... but I know I'll want to trip lol so we'll just have to see how it goes. Maybe a low-moderate dose right before work so that [if at all] I'll only be a tiny bit high and letting it cure my friedness at the same time [if it does so].

 

Very cool. By the way, I'm reading your posts on the 4-aco-dmt thread, and this seriously makes me want to try some already!

 

yah well I don't have anything to contribute in the way of 4-aco-dmt as I've never tried it (but would love to!!!!!!) ... BUT, back on the original topic, yah... I abused 2C-E pretty much, it was summer and I would eat/snort large quantities at a time because I had tolerance, would redose several times in a session, and was having sessions a couple times a week for a month... and anyway this was August-September 2009... the last time I took 2C-E that month I combined it with LSD, and I took mushrooms in December, nothing else in between, or during that time period (some before), and nothing since the mushies in December, but I have noticed definite visual oddities, like after images last way longer than they used to and have more colors, weirder psychedelic shapes, I get auras around lights now, greater contrast of light and shadow (like I see really subtle shadows), visual acuity, greater range of colors, etc... basically what you would expect from a light dose but permanent lol and all increased by cannabis consumption

 

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Done, and thanks for the tip.

 

Ya last night before bed I had some HPPD stuff going on, very subtle. I'm pretty sure it's from the two 2-ce trips from this past weekend, because I have never had that happen from shrooms or lucy.

 

Hey guys, I definitely have HPPD from 2c-e now. It's all the time, nothing that gets in the way of everyday life, so I do enjoy it but it is a little concerning. It's hardly noticable when I am sober unless I pay attention, but it can be really strong when I smoke. I still see tracers and things look...brilliant lol. Like when birds fly or bugs fly across my vision, they definitely leave a trail. And the sky, holy fuck. You know when you stand close enough to a TV that you can see the little blocks of the primary colors or whatever, that is very similar to how shit looks now. I feel like I can see pixels in everything, especially solid colors.

It's cool, but like I said, I'm concerned about tripping on 2c-e anytime soon because I don't want it to get worse. I like playing sports and being able to drive safely, I don't want to always be tripping haha. Going to stick with shrooms and try to get some synthetic tryptamines for the time being.

EDIT: Good news, I think I spoke too soon. It's been 4 days now since I tripped, I smoked last night and experienced no tracers. Things still look nice, but maybe this is a result of how profound my last trip was, I don't think I could ever go back to the way I used to see things. The pixel effect is still present, but only if I pay attention to it. It's very subtle, it is not distracting nor does not prevent me from getting anything done. I am glad it's fading, makes me feel better about taking 2c-e again soon but I will just look for trypts in the meantime and wait a month or so first.

 

I know man that shit sucks if you ever wanna start tripping just start driving at night... that shit's ridiculous it magnifies your HPPD by about ten million times....