From A Soldier

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Easy_Cure, Nov 16, 2004.

  1. PhysicTrip

    PhysicTrip Member

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    Breaking an arm or leg or something might buy you some time.
    I would probibly go to sweden if it was me that was making the choice.


    Best wishes man
     
  2. flowerchild89

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    I support the troops fully. I don't support the war. But it's complete crap to say that just because you don't support Bush and the war means that you automatically condemn the troops.
     
  3. Nathan11

    Nathan11 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I think Bush should be imprisioned for his war crimes, but the troops are being spoon-fed lies...
    How can you hate them for the way they were raised?
    Blame da pigz!
     
  4. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    because there is such a thing as self-responsability.
     
  5. Nathan11

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    Yes, but they are led to believe that are doing a worthy thing.
    I pity that they don't know the truth, but I will not hate them for them doing something they believe is right.
     
  6. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    i'm going to have to disagree with you man, because i blame every soldier for this war as well as the government.
     
  7. flowerchild89

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    It's not the soldiers fault! What, you think they WANTED to be ripped away from their homes and families to go risk death millions of miles away in a worthless war? It's the administration's fault, not the soldiers'.
     
  8. al_from_mn

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    I wouldn't put you down at all, I commend you for standing up and telling your commander how you felt. As far as your choices, the Canadian government will give you refugee status for political persecution, they will not extradite you. This goes for any American soldiers who are opposed to the Iraq war.

    Alex


     
  9. al_from_mn

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    I agree. The vast majority of the troops are not of the "blow stuff up and kill people" mentality.

    Alex
     
  10. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    well, all the soldiers did sing a contract that say's they'll fight if the government wants them too... i don't know what you can call that but a choice
     
  11. Nathan11

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    Little one, are you under the impression that the draft already happened?
    o_O
    Not yet...but don't doubt the power of the ignorance of the Bush Admin.
    They weren't ripped away...
    They signed up...
    ::sigh::
     
  12. al_from_mn

    al_from_mn Member

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    They signed up with the understanding that they would not be put in harms way unless it was absolutely neccesary. Where do you draw the line? If Bush decided to invade canada, would it be treasonous of the troops to refuse to fight? Simply the fact that they "signed up" is no justification for making them put their lives at risk for lies.

    Peace, Alex
     
  13. Scotty

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    message from Canada... we dont want your army leftovers... we got enough trouble with our relationship with the united states as it is... find some other country to be a coward in.
     
  14. Nathan11

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    Aye, they shouldn't have to put their lives at risk for lies, but they beleive/d Bush was correct when they signed up...

    I pity the ones who still believe Bush is a good man.
     
  15. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    message to scotty - we aren't all albertan and we don't all like klein
     
  16. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    And you can speak for every single Canadian because.....
     
  17. JohnThursday

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    Everyone joins for a different reason. They all also joined with the preconception that what they're doing is right and just and honorable as well. They're bombarded with so much propaganda from day to day be it recruitment advertisement everywhere they turn or slanted news and led to believe that no matter what's going on over there or what they're doing, it's in the name of "freedom," when every enlightened human being knows that the only aim of this war is to defend the economy. War is a catalyst for the economy. People in the military don't usually take this sort of perspective. They're doing what they think they have to do, either for their country or their own lives. They're not evil for being in the military. The only evil people are the ones who make the real decisions in Washington D.C., and even then they have way more control than the president and we don't even ever see them.

    If you want to be righteous and indignant, that's your bag and if you need to do that to feel better about yourself, your views and position, do it.
    Here's a guy though that just wants out now. Criticizing him ain't helping anything.
     
  18. flowerchild89

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    No, I know the draft didn't happen...I'm not retarded...
    But most of them signed up for the army, never DREAMING they would be in a war. I was just talking in response to that guy who was blaming the war on the soldiers. It's not like they really want to be there either...
     
  19. airforcedrew

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    Don't flee to canada if you ever plan to come back to america and get a job. AWOL is one of the worst thing to have on a resume here. Plus if you go to canada now the canadian police/army will find you and send you back down here where you will be processed into a brig. Honestly you have to be fit for deployment before you deploy, say you fell and injured your ankle, or broke your leg, they can't deploy you. Its the new military's fit for fight act.
     
  20. al_from_mn

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    No they won't, the canadian government has already given many american soldiers refugee status. Also, if you flee to Canada to avoid the war, you probably don't have any intention of coming back.

    Alex
     

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