Cold and evil

I wouldn't try too hard writer, the bull neg repped me for not believing that he was possessed by his satanic friend lol.

"Clearly what we are dealing with here is a possession, Watson..."
"Sir, the victim stated that he and his friends were on magic mushrooms at the time....Couldn't this have had some effect on their perceptions?"
"Psychotropic hallucinogens? Irrelevant my good boy, you have so much to learn."

 

No, something simaliar, thoughts are 'things' that take up residence in people.

 

convincing freshdacre that no spirits were involved would be like trying to convince a soldier from iraq that no ak47's were involved.

 

thats kind of the way i think about these things...the metaphor would be that our thinking patterns create energetic climates, in a universe where like attracts like. but for the most part, i think the vast majority of these spirits we encounter are of our own creation...the fruit of our seeds.

 

Just let go man, allow go, let the wheel turn. Do not doubt it, its just a drug.



The mind is POWERFUL man. One little association like a lighter with a reaper on it can manifest. Big time. I watched Jar Head the day before my freak out... I was convinced I was being shipped to the marines and everyone was gonna get bombed.

 

The problem with "spirits" is that they bind us to a homo-centric cosmology that obscures the real role of our nature.

 

how so? for the most part "spirit" is simply manifestation of energy imo. energy exists in many forms.

 

Spirit means breath. I said the problem with "spirits". Homo-centric characterizations of energy are invariably grandiose. Pride is an insidious form of self loathing. The Grandeur of your miraculous nature far exceeds any ideas we have about our "special" nature.

 

i cant disagree with what youv said or the way youv said it.

...a part of me really want to get into this dialog and type up an accurate articulation the cosmic game as far as iv been able to observe its nature...but truth be told, iv been drinking and smoking this evening to the degree where my mind is loose and unrefined...:coffee: so tonight all i can offer is the ramblings of a kook.

lets play with the ocean metaphor wherin an individual is like a cove unto the vast ocean (universal conciousness). for the most part we are limited by this perspective...(it is our normal waking conciousness, confined by our body) there are ways in which an individuals conciousness can dissolve its boundaries and recognize its union with this ocean, it is simply observing self from a larger perspective. but there are also ways in which it is possible for this individual conciousness to transend its cove and roam freely this ocean in an effort to observe the diversity to be found within this larger body. it can be argued that this ocean is increadibly diverse. and always... it can be argued that there is simply water of oceanic origin.

 

Spirit is energy without form, it is a different type of energy, it is not electrical energy, it is the energy that creates energy rather, its is the forceless force, everything flows from it, but it just is.

From a spiritual eye there is no separation from negative and positive energy, its all just energy. Thats why trancending death and the ego will set you free, by allowing you to witness that seperation is an illusion, all is one.

Death is but a gap. In chemistry, if you are talking about the melting point or the freezing point of a substance, you are talking about the same point. The melting point and the freezing point are the same tempature. That point is just a gap, the transition point where the material is both a solid and a liquid, the inbetween state.

It is called a melting point if the substance is going from solid to liquid, and it is called freezing point if the substance is going from liquid to a solid, but it is the same point! It is just a gap, and the purer the substance, the less time that gap is, and that is no lie!

Death is the same thing, it is only a gap, only a transition. It is a transition from the form to the formless. It is the gap inbetween the two, that is death. And if you were coming from the formless to the form, that is birth. They are the same point, a transition from the one to the many, and from the many to the one.

Now just as in chemistry, the purer you are the shorter that transition point will be. When you a free from the ego in life, there is no point called death, it is such a small deatail, just a transtion, the point is infinitley small. At the point of death, one takes off is body as calmy as he takes of his clothes at night.

Don't worry, the light shall shine thru the back of your eyelids like a million blazing suns, the truth is coming closer!

 

Go ahead and laugh kookaburra. We see better when the veil is thin.

It is not a requirement of nature that our carefree moments be so few and forever distant. It means only we had not learned the liberty of our heart. We had been taught mind you, to care for things more or less. The wages of life are apparent only in our careless moments. Our boundaries are places we only refuse to go.

You say here the same thing twice, we gain a new perspective. But the next step is to observe your own creations. We had seen ourselves, figures in a dream, forgetting then that we are the dreamer.

 

this is a great piece of knowledge

 

You guys this trip changed me so fucking much like seriously. I am a different person now and I thought lsd was life changing. I still feel like something is not ok.

 

For the record, I believe everything still, and I think that is what changed me is all the spiritual awareness I have now. When stuff like that happens to you from the other side, you stay in the other side.

 

This is what I mean by it is not foreign FD, you have increased spiritual awareness, you are more aware of the totality of yourself. In you is a mindless rage as well as an altruistic demeanor. The trick is to be the master of all your own angels and demons. It is good that you have found respect for your own frailty.

 

Fuck dude you are hella smart thedope I am sorry for doubting you. I just have a hard time understanding your complicated way of putting words sometimes.
I agree with you here completely though, we are in control of our demons and angels, when I am happy I make others really happy, when I am sad I bring people down.
I am sure I have amazing control at this point, but you have to realize that some places are just dangerous to trip on shrooms in, dangerous in a spiritual way.

 

Don't worry, I don't doubt you.

 

read this whole book

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_experience/psychedelic_experience.shtml

Seriously, I don't mean that as just a side-remark. You completely died, it happens with psychedelics, that book is a translation of the tibetan book of the dead, when going through the death experience on psychedelics I've found alot value from thoughts in that book.

 

My God... That was just fuckin flipped my mind rygoody. Its like they explained every little part of what happened to me, and summed up everything. It just answered all of my questions and shit, wow, I really feel speechless at this point. All I can say is plus rep rygoody.

 

well which one is it? is the spiritual realm just the inner realm? or is it a separate realm, one which can hold "danger" for you? "in a spiritual way", whatever that means?