Hinduism stored in the LSD Akashic record

you didn't answer the question. Who's authority?

 

Evidently not a who, but a the.

 

yea i suppose he's saying that the "other realms" and "higher dimensions" are what the authority would be.

 

dude....seriously

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

 

occams razor argues nonsence with common sence...its doubled edge tends to stunt uncommon sence though. ....it makes nothing anymore or less certain

 

so what do you mean neodude? that i should suppose the simplest conclusion?

well, you can do that, but that doesn't mean that you aren't just dealing with the tip of the iceburg. seems inefficient.

kind of like math. we can use shorcuts to find the derivative or more complex sum of a function, but do we really know the fundamental math behind what we are doing?

 

You haven't displayed any math at all, much less fundamental. I find no useful aspects to the hierarchy you have described.

 

Nah, it means you should look at things in the most realistic light, instead of assuming some fantastical shit and explaining the fantastical by making up some other mystical shit, and then explaining the mystical because of some other magical shit, and then explaining the magical because of some feelings and stuff, and then tying it all up together b/c everything is like one, man

 

magick and mystical dimensions are a part of reality

 

k, thanks for clearing everything up
an empty statement was all I really needed to make me a believer

 

this is making me laugh really hard.

mystical dimensions i would like to think is real. just cause it would be kickass. but if not it doesn't really matter to me.

Magick i could see some objective truth to it, though i have not delved very much into it thus far.

 

Honestly. Desos, reading your post, every line I just go "", like, what? How do you know that? Why do you think this? Every statement you make is extremely grandiose and complicates things even further. In order to explain something fantastic you have invoked, you invoke further fantasy. Don't you see it's just a vicious cycle of using myth to explain myth? At what point does it actually *click* with reality? With any kind of real observation that you as a human being have made? I'm not talking about your mental ideas of what is what, I'm talking about real, visceral knowledge. You cannot tell me that you know anything that you have posted, and if you do, then I just don't see why you would say yes to all this and no to scientology.

But you don't even know that you're dealing with an iceberg in the first place Desos! You are assuming this from the getgo! It's like you sit down to tackle the problem of the nature of reality, with your pen and pad, and the first thing you write is "OK, step one, [insert HUGE SYSTEM OF MYSTICISM]". Where do you get all this from? This complex system of interactions between entities that are only ideas in your head?

This is one viewpoint of mathematics, another one, held by many mathematicians and logicians, is that mathematics is nothing more than manipulation of symbols. A game of language, lines on paper, and formalizations of human mental syntax. Anyways, your point seems to be opposite of what you are doing, because while you are still obviously not getting at any "real, fundamental" reality with your words, you still decide to use the most ornate and complex system you could find. Why not start with a basic, like "I am". This is what one should write on one's pad first, not "karma this" and "authority of higher dimensions that".

Do you understand the basic concept that myself and neodude are trying to show you? Do you truly understand Occam's Razor, and why it is actually useful? I'm not sure you do, and I think this is the entire reason why your worldview is so mixed up and sending you hither and thither into deeper and deeper realms of story and metaphor.

 

Magick and mystical dimensions have nothing to do with believing, they only have to do how high of a dose you have taken.

I in no way include such things in my understanding of reality because of something I read from somewhere, or from what someone else told me, or because of any 'words' at all. Or anything currently stored in my brain flesh.

Magick is also not as fantasmical of a concept when you understand it through modern occult viewpoints of simply being, willed brain change. Which might sound tame, but theres so much to change in the brain! Hit the right part of it and you can get reality doing some rather odd things.

 

I really don't understand all this friction with Desos post. I myself have encountered more weird astral dynamics and interfaces with the other than what he describes.

Certainly his application of the notions of free will and there being entities who impart ownership over certain sectors of the astral are metaphorical to his, or rather, our own style. But to assume some section of the astral does not operate by the dynamics he describes I think implies little understanding of how astral dynamics function, because it is the simple thought of such things that would manifest them. Which yes, Scientology does too have it's niche in the astral plane as well. It's not really a matter of what is true and what isn't true, as given proper application of spiritual technique, and dosage, it can all be true. It's really only a matter of, do you want it to be true, and what is your own style.

Because thats all reality is, and can ever be, whether it be to astral plane, or to energy condensed to being perceived as hard matter, or to any intermixing of densities. It's your mind arranging it to be perceived in accordance with your conscious, or unconscious style. Of course some arrangements of reality might have less people in them saying "ya man, your right", but you know, requiring that as a component of your reality went out of style with the Christians and Catholics I think.

 

The following terms have zero meaning for me: "astral dynamics" "astral realms" "astral plane". I simply have no idea what you guys mean when you talk about this. I know what the words mean. I just don't know any facet of reality which corresponds to those meanings.

 

In other words, how high you get = how much you know.
Yeaaaaahhh...that isn't doing much to convince me lol.
BTW, reading something somewhere isn't the ultimate anti-thesis of knowledge rygoody.
Just because you experience something unusual or something new, and then you think it over, and decide upon a specific interpretation (which, ironically enough, usually IS based on something you've read or seen before, I mean good lord this entire thread is based on an ancient concept found in books) in order to rationalize it or explain it in no way makes that interpretation necessarily right.

I saw lightening yesterday, the ancient Indian God did it because he was angry and it was scary, I know this because I saw the lightening.

 

You create your own meanings in the universe. I understand what mr. writer and neodude are saying...like why are you getting waaay out of hand with all of this astral and mystical shit?

But at the same time it's like who cares? Why not dare to dream? Be playful about ideas. Don't hold too tightly on to any concept but use any concept as fair game at the same time. You create the significance that you give to ANYTHING at all.

For example, i could take a penny right now and declare it the God of Significant Charades. And nobody could stop me. Nor could anyone refute the fact that this penny is indeed the God of Significant Charades. This is a completely random and absurd example, but it's just making the point.

And it also just has to do with personality and shit. No different than sub-cultures who create their own language that to others sounds completely ridiculous and absurd. Why not the same with all the mystical and astral shit? It may not have any definite foundation of reality but it also could. And what exactly is this concrete thing called "reality" anyway?

Just be playful with concepts is all i'm saying.

 

Pretty much anyone could refute that based on what the word "God" entails. Words exist for definition, the concept of God means different things to everyone, but the word "God" means some pretty specific stuff, and a singular penny is not that.
There comes a point where shit just breaks down, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, you can lock up your mind and insist that your penny is God and nothing will persuade you otherwise and it's your opinion and your reality, but I think we can agree that kind of behavior isn't healthy, whether we are talking about pennies or akashic records.

 

now you're just taking what i'm trying to say way too seriously.

Let's call it the Clown of Significant Charades instead. And there's absolutely nothing un-healthy about naming a penny. It's no different than naming a pet or a guitar or a stuffed animal.

 

I was just using your example as an example.
And you didn't introduce the penny thing as simply naming something, you introduced it as the hypothetical penny actually being something other than a penny.
Alls I'm sayin is, reality is reality is reality