I've been interested in trying psychedelics for a long time now, and after some research, decided to start with some 10x Salvia Extract. I wanted to become acquinted with psychedelics with a more inward discovery than "ball-tripping" experience. So I bought a gram of the stuff at a headshop around here and took it to the park with my friend J and my girlfriend H. We decided to sit at a bluff that overlooks the surrounding county just as the sun was setting. Not a soul was in the park; it was perfectly peaceful. I loaded a bowl for J, he lit, inhaled, held it for about 20 seconds. Exhaled, nothing. Smoked the rest of the bowl and instantly felt what he described as a little "buzzy high". I got excited and loaded a bowl for myself but I could not get the damn thing to light. Turns out it was windy enough that we all gave up after about 10 minutes and went back to the car to head home (we were all hungry) and try it again. J's mild high had worn off in about 2 minutes, which disappointed us all. Once in the car though, I tried to light again and with no wind, the Salvia started burning nicely and I got a huge lungful and tried to hold it in. I started counting but I completely lost count as I felt like my body was pushed down into the seat and my head was way above everything else. I said, "Whoa... whoa... holy shit..." and looked over at my girlfriend. I looked at her eyes, which made a pattern horizontally across everything... the seatbelt became like her eyes, the mirror became like her eyes, the teeter-totter outside became like her eyes, all in a repeating pattern. Then that pattern started to slide sideways, seperating from everything else in my field of vision. I got the feeling that a strip of the wold had been sliced free and was being pulled away, but then it turned into the sensation that my eye had been divided into sections and that one had gone rogue and was moving opposite of the rest of the sections. But then I realized what I really felt was that my entire mind and the world along with it had become as a giant, complex Rubix Cube-type apparatus and one section was being shifted backwards. Then it all stopped and I had to hold onto the dashboard for a moment to regain balance. I was totally blown away and stoked to try it again at home (as I didn't really want that to happen again as we were driving). Once at home, J tried another bowl, to no avail. He felt nothing more than a mild giddiness and buzz. I tried another bowl though, and was completely floored. I held in two solid lungfuls, and during the second one, as I closed my eyes, the floor and walls were totally gone and I had no reference point. When I opened them again, I saw this colorfully-patterned border around everything in my living room; the window, the TV, the bookshelf, the couch, J on my couch, the guitar next to J... the border slid around the objects like snakes, but with something that I can only describe as a rough, "blocky" feel, which again reminded me of a Rubix Cube or possible toy building blocks. This is when I realized that I was experiencing a combination of the senses; what I saw, I felt, and the snake frames also made this rough sort of buzzy sound that was bizarre but not disturbing. I looked at the floor and knew somehow that it was desert, all rough and able to slide around like the snake frames and the noises. After about a minute I close my eyes and leaned back against the couch. When I opened my eyes again, all the visuals and noise were gone, and I had been laughing like a lunatic at how crazy everything was. I smoked a little more after that but did not get any effect whatever. For a few minutes I noticed some odd things; the wood slats on the floor in my living room appeared to zip back and forth as I walked over them; and some sort of antler or tree-branch thing was growing from J and H's heads onto the couch behind them. All in all, a very interesting experience, very very intense (to me, who hasn't done any drugs besides weed [I don't even like to take pills]). Will definitely try again, as I hear that you build a "reverse tolerance" to Salvia. Hopefully next time I'll discover more of its potential.
I definitely will. I'm afraid I wasted quite a bit of it since neither of us had any idea how to smoke it (I don't even smoke weed). But now that I mostly figured it out, I'll try smoking an entire bowl, not taking one hit and letting the rest of the leaf just burn up.
You've really opened my eyes to something. Thus far my tentative steps have been limited to the initial overwhelmingly disorienting effect, thus considering it so disorienting as to be not useful. I will take another look.
Going beyond the disorentation made me little anxious but it was definitely worth it. Completely unexpected but extraordinarily enjoyable. I can see how some people don't like the kind of trip it gives, but again, I have yet to try shrooms, LSD, or mescaline, so I haven't anything to compare it to.
You had a great, great first experience. Usually it's so overwhelming that people are just so turned off from ever trying it again..But I guess a combination of the 10x, you not really smoking it right (lol) and smoking it from a bowl (bong next time, different trip!) kept things pretty light. I'm not sure why your friend didn't trip, but I have seen people hit salvia from a bowl and not trip before. Put on some good music next time and relax..hit it from the bong, hold as long as you can and you'll be erased from the planet before you can even think about blowing it out. You're surprisingly mellow for someone who has no experience with any psychedelics or even weed, but if you can handle the effects of salvia that well all the power to you. Did you perfusely sweat? Babble your words a bit? I know you said "whoa, whoa holy shit" at one point which is possible to slip out as you're heading towards the trip but you should really be reduced to inaudible mumbling Congrats on your first trip and here's to many more! Be sure to get back on here with your next experience. This is really influencing me to pick up a gram after work..I better make some cash
I've actually had three or four experiences with weed, but I don't like smoking anything as I enjoy having excellent lungs. Firecrackers work well for me. And yes, now that you mention it, I was definitely sweating heavily, but I didn't notice until well after the initial trip was over. I don't recall incoherent babbling, but I do remember trying to explain how it looked like everything was in a picture frame made of snakes but all I could do was laugh at how insane that sounded. I learned a good lesson about smoking it though; put enough in your bowl for ONE hit, inhale, hold that, then go ahead and do another if you can. If you have excess left in the bowl after your first hit, it will burn to nothing. At least with the finely-ground extract I was using. And I will certainly be trying Salvia again! I'd like to get more out of it than some wacky visuals and hysterical laughing, so I'll get a slightly stronger extract this time and I'll probably do it by myself, in a setting more conducive to an introspective experience.
nice! im really interested in trying salvia, im strictly a weed smoker.... but id really really like to experience this wonderful plant, have you tried the 20x yet?
I only have experience with the plain dried foliage, nonextract. I got basically no effects by smoking it by itself. I took it sublingually once and got a super rush of euphoria and laughter, felt really weird. But then I tried smoking it after I had already gotten super stoned - and WOW... salvia to me makes space completely 2D... it's like everything in my field of vision becomes flat, like it's right in front of my eyes... and cubist. and yes it does cause extreme sweating. I haven't smoked it for like a year... it really changed a lot of my views since it was the first psychedelic I had used besides pot (and morning glories and san pedro - but I didn't get effects from thsoe, want to try them again, too) ... and I would really like to try it again but unfortunately it's illegal in Ohio now
Yes, and it is NOT LIKE BUD. A. ONLY 1 HIT, hold the lighter to it like your trying to cash it all. B. hold it in for about 30 seconds or until you notice vibrations. C. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE 20x. i did a 20x for the first time the other day and it was what i would compare to 10+ hits of acid all peaking at once, and then leaving just as quick as it came. I've done, shrooms, cid, 2c-e n I smoke bud EVERYDAY. So i thought it would be a cake walk. NOOOO that shit is INTENSE. have a sitter present like you would for L. and don't fight it. Lol also a good idea to have NOTHING in your hands. e.g. put the bowl down somewhere safe ASAP and don't try to draw or anything like that. markers can cause confusion, lol.
That's cool you had a good experience and all but please don't be an idiot again and smoke it in the car. We don't need another dumbass teenager having problems with this stuff and causing it to get more negative attention. Do It in the comfort of a home or somewhere with a nice scenic view with little to no chance of injury.
That's strange, even 10x makes me trip a little. I usually get a short "picture book" effect trip and even see through the portal to salvia world at least. With good 10x that is. If that isn't dong anything for you, then definately go with the 20x. It might take a lot of patience, so give it some time. It took a couple tries for 20x to work for me, but geeze it freakin did when it did! Also, I wouldn't really use Salvia to get a feel for other phycadelics, because it's the most atypical phycadelic I've ever tried with effects unique to itself. I hope you have some wonderful Salvia Divinorum trips in the future!
i tried salvia twice when i was a teenager. i'd like to try it again now that i've had more experience with psychedelics - and i'm sure i could smoke it correctly now
yah man its something I came back to. I definitely prefer it more now, although I still find it very inconsistent in its effects, sometimes its blissful, sometimes terrifying. Its amazing to mix with entactogens (mdma, methylone) I really do think MDMA + salvia is one of the most mystical combos, they compliment each other perfectly.