Made another attempt to identify the sugar cube "LSD" on Saturday that I posted about recently. In much better set and setting I had a better time, and maybe have clues to id it with a little help. Have not done LSD previously, but am experienced with salvia, mescaline and weed. This time took only 1 sugar cube believing that I took too much of an rc last time. When I started to feel odd, I started smoking af gooey. And had a really euphoric and ecstatic time. Incredible synergy between cube and weed. Simultaneously fatigued and energized at same time. Like I had live wire flooding current into my tire body. 4 hours in, I was beyond happy riding a strong wave. Very sexual response, good orgasm, light relaxed cev not involving geometry at all, light oev of the suggestible kind; look in a mirror see some light shifting of features from comical to evil; briefly had a vision in the mirror of evil me in a black monks robe in the mirror. Skin seemed very red, and hot. Had a mescaline feel in a way, but pushed. Cev were slow, complete images in color, no straight lines, more like art gallery drawings. Definitely coming down by 6 hours, had something of a crash, quasi depressive feeling( manually countered this by refusing to sink into a funk, and by smoking more afgoo. Certain evil flavor to comedown, black things in shadows, etc that I dispelled and countered by pursuing ( come on motherf@@@@@!). Next day, maybe a bit moody and intolerant. Trip awesome, definite light psychedelic component, strong weed compatible euphoria, bit of an empty downer comedown and post-trip. Still don't believe this is LSD, but rc like dob or homologues supposedly very long lasting. This trip no spiritual aspect, although I am the least spiritual of people. No awe, just pushed happiness. The body load described in my first description clearly realized as electrical super energy (on top of lethargic fatigue) experienced in second attempt. Any ideas what it might be? This is the first time I've experienced a crash, or downer comedown from any drug. Thanks
Keep in mind this is one sugar cube which looks perfectly normal. And couldn't even remotely detect any bitter or strange taste...
I would bet on 2ci based on your description, i have only a solo experience with it, but exact time length as you described, somewhat similar effects and I got a headache on the comedown.
First description was in recent post called "palliative" at Www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=393223 Also, at one point around peak, I put on music, shortly realizing that I wanted to listen to pink Floyd. I believe I heard something odd, like instruments were like voices saying something . Someone interrupted me at that point and forgot to continue listening, but was kind of cool. Faintly thought towards end that I heard voices also, which is creepy. Focused on not hearing them, and they quit. Also, eyes only a little dilated, not real obvious like a strong mescaline trip...
Well i'm not sure with that first post, like i said i've only had one experience. 2ci is somewhat like mescaline and I have a pretty neutral mood on it, swaying from really happy to kind of cynical. I feel slightly 'metallic' on it and you mentioned something about wires so I dunno that may be a similar sensation. I also experienced the art gallery thing too. LSD never has the art gallery visuals i experience on 2c's or mescaline. LSD is somewhat 'soupy' visually on the edges of the visual field but i find the colors seem to manifest and disappear within actual objects and on 2ci it was more just as if it was shaded and moving around the object. I tried listening to Pink Floyd on 2ci and couldn't do it, i sounded far away from the music i needed electronic music to go with that 'metallic' feeling. I find 6-8 hours is when the LSD cevs are at their best.
sorry, forgot to reply to your post there DOX and bromo are active in blotter size, so sugar cube would be no problem. Sugar cube even opens the door to some of the 2c-xs, but that seems less likely if the sugar cubes appear untampered (liquid solution 2c-e? but it would take so much, the sugar cube would need to be drenched in liquid no?) after reading about the "hot plasticy" feeling i feel that maybe this was not lsd indeed, that type of chemically-feeling body high along with a temperature increase sounds much more like an RC than LSD, which as has been said here, feels more like a state of mind than being on a drug.
Whatever this stuff is, it doesnt conform at all to my impressions of what LSD is like, an expectation which in great part has formed by reading posts here for several years. Also, I use Albert Hoffmans descriptions of his accidental light dose, and later intentional use as a litmus test; this stuff doesnt sound like Hoffman's trips at all. In a way, Im very glad it isnt LSD. As a drug, its ok. As LSD, its a big disappointment. This stuff is not mental; it's physical, and further, its physical effects are very disproportionate to its psychedelic mental effects as it has huge euphoric effects and light average psychedelic effects. Thats not my impression of LSD at all... Lastly, one dose was great, 2 doses appeared to give me stomach problems and a migraine and looping, nightmarish dreams, followed by a day of not feeling that great. That would appear to match RCs as several RCs talk about the problem of mistaking them for LSD because, although they produce similar effects to LSD, their dosage profile is not safe and gentle like LSD. Specifically, if its an RC I could die or end up in hospital if I tossed 10 sugar cubes down the hatch, enthusiastically seeking the Universal Why. Not so with LSD. Sadly, the search continues...
Just read erowid and shulgins descriptions of 2cb; sounds real similar...average dose 5-15 mg. dont see why that couldnt be dissolved in small amount of liquid and applied to sugar cube?
I doubt its 2cb, obviously not saying it couldnt be. 2cb has been schedule 1 since 1994 and most dealers sell 2cb as 2cb or ecstasy. Its a bit shorter than 6 hours in my experience, more like 4, and not scary at all at least up to 30 Mgs. But yah look into 2ci, many say its pretty similar to 2cb. I found 2cb to be closer to ecstasy and 2ci to be a bit more closer to a psychedelic.
MMMMMM sugar cubes! Sounds like you had a good time whatever it was you dosed with, you should consider that your body probably feels as it should feel after trippin all night = tired.
