How far in time do you think we are gonna make it on this planet? Like our species? Do you think a lifeform like ours existed on this planet or a planet in our solar system and made it as far as this? Shorter? Farther? Relativley the same? If that makes sense?
I do not think that intelligent life has arisen on any other planets in this solar system. Life forms like ours have arisen on this planet, by which I mean other intelligent bi-pedal primates. Non of them appear to have reached the intelligence possessed by our species, and all of them died out by twelve thousand years ago at the latest. I do not think that our species will make it very far in time compared to other life forms. Some arthropods have been around for 300 million years. I imagine our species will be gone long before that.
i see. why dont you think that other lifeforms on other planets have existed? So you believe that this is just a cycle that earth has gone through before that weve reached? like life forms have made it this far in time before and then repeated the whole process?
It's possible that neanderthals had as much or more native intelligence that us. But they lacked the physical ability to effectively communicate abstract ideas.
itsallgood, I do believe that there is life on other planets. I do not believe that there is or has been life on other planets in our solar system. The other planets don't seem suitable for life. I do not believe that this is a cycle that has occurred before. I think that the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old, and that life arose around 3.6 billion years ago, and that around 4 million years ago intelligent bi-pedal primates evolved, and that 100,000 years ago humans evolved, and that humans are the most cognitively advanced species to exist yet, and that we will probably die out in less than a million years. Neanderthals were certainly intelligent. They built foundations for their houses, they left flowers with dead relatives and probably did a whole lot of things that aren't reflected in the archaeological record. But Homo sapiens probably had more cortical matter, allowing more flexible intelligence which would allow them (us) to flourish when Neanderthal could not.
I see that. But our planet produced life forms that were suitable for this planet so perhaps these other planets might produce or couldve produced life forms suitable for their planet? I honestly believe that each planet thrives itself to produce life, its like it finds ways to. Or do the temperatures and gases and them other elements have to be completely perfect for life to sustain? holy shit this is like a scientific breakthrough. I find that us measuring time like that is really not right? I believe we dont know about earths histroy the way we think because most of these are just ideas. I believe earth has been here for longer and that their could have been a infinite amount of cycles and we dont know if this is the farthest weve reached in our cycle of life. We can only dig so deep in the ground and the core is like a eater of ground, it dissolves shit. Remember dude everything is just a flash, if the universe ends everything before its ending is just flash, if earth ends everything before is just a flash. Why is my question? Never have i thought about it like this. WOW lol.
For the first part go here: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=392737&f=38 For the second-- I can't give you a simplistic answer, but suffice it to say that radioactivity says no. HOWEVER, your idea about cycles may apply to the Universe as a whole.
I think humans will live a long time, regardless of how stupidly we destroy our planet and ourselves. I feel humans are at a point in technology where we can pretty much figure out how to survive anything. I think its admirable. And if we're intelligent beings, I'm sure there's plenty of intelligent beings out there somewhere... its just odds. we just haven't found them yet.
I think longer than a decade grim even though thats a nice amount of time for certain things to happen. According to Al Gore the change in the atomosphere are gonna be seen changing drasticaly in our lifetime. That kinda frightens me.
Think about this: Every sucessful intelligent species, on any planet; at some point, deals with the problem of OVERPOPULATION. A point arises where they are sucessful against their natural environment, and along some point in time, there is too many of said species. It is how we deal with this problem that is the greatest measure of an intelligent species. With that being said, i think humans are here in the universe for good. I believe we will populate so many planets and spread so far that our removal will be impossible without the removal of the universe.
I'd have 2 agree with Emanresu except 4 the part about humans not being able to exist for 300 million years. I think its possible or we may evolve into a different type of being and that being could exist for 300 million years.
Sadhu defines well Thou i would say 'a point comes when their skill overcomes their reliance on nature' That skill we call technology We set ourselves on that path back in th 1700's. If we are going to be a technological species lets not f*k around. Our race has no strategic goal.. we loaf along like hobo's whining about the economy. But our skills we keep close..What is one of the best held secrets of 1970 to 1999? Boeing wing design. No-one wanted fission-fusion-fission bomb tech.. whats it good for? 2012 my arse... i'll send you card from bahamas in 2013. if im not dead from more prosaic reasons. Humanity is but a few million years in age from upright homonids. we are still preteens. Wait till we are 50 and get all squirrely
I too worry about how our temparture, or how our basic conditional reception here on earth is going to be ever since we started pumping our gases into the green room. Its going to get really really surreally crazy during 2011 if these charts that our top notch scientists have been researching fall into place or ever after 12. Lol
