The world wide web via internet is a sign that anarchy works. Discussion forums are where the sign really shows. See how discussers work together on topic of topics. The world wide web via internet is anarchy at work. Do any of you dispute this clear cut case of anarchy? You see all these individual people coming onto the internet. You see how they discuss with no one world wide web leader. Not a single person was killed via world wide web to date. Not a single person has taken down the world wide web either. Therefore anarchy is seen as something strong that can work very well. Discussion forms are likened unto tribes of anarchy that stay stablized. The outcasts of one tribe may join another tribe, is how it works on the world wide web. Sure you seen how members can be banned. One person can join more than one tribe as a way of making it. If you cant compare the world wide web via internet to anarchy, to note the resemblence, then you are only kidding. Haha! So as long as discussion forums work out, and they do as you can see, then so can anarchy work out. Now if we can only bring this well kept form of anarchy off of the net, and bring it into the real world, things would be grand. Ha! Grand I tell you! So if anybody tells you that anarchy can not work, just point out the world wide web, and ask them how come the world wide web is working out. Ha!
Let me touch on something... Like disagreeings on the internet... If one doesn't like a tribe for whatever reason they can move on to the next. Like to another thread if not to another discussion forum. That's what they do on the internet, correct? No one has to be killed in real life anarchy just like so by doing a thing we call moving on when you don't agree with something. Discussion forums don't force you to become a member (likened to a citizen). That's how tribes of anarchy work! Completely unlike a government where one has no choice but to be a citizen (likened to a member) under certain specific rules. And there are no borders on discussion forums except maybe age restrictions. I suppose many tribes of anarchy would show as to having open borders, so to speak, of the tribes themselves.
People who come onto the interent are considered loners at first that join message boards to get in where they fit in. So they are entered into tribes likened unto discussion forums. You can look at it as they're still a loner (their own individual) even when in tribes that are open for them to feel out. Just a matter of view point. Each individual is alone even though with others who all are individuals too. And that's all the time how it is. Afterall, in the real world people are still apart of the United States and yet there are still people called loners out there in the United States. So see? Being in a tribe doesn't stop anyone from being considered a loner or considering themselves a loner. Some tribes of anarchy can be where no man is above the next, and they, the members in the tribe, are all equal. Like the equal in car point. Interesting how tribes get to be so different from each other like how discussion forums are. Oh yeah, like someone else said on another discussion forum: "We solve our own problems on the internet... no government intervention required!"
it's kind of hard for some random person to take your personal property away from you through the use of only the internet. This is the only thing that would make me disagree with your idea of the web being proof.
@ Tormentations Dude, weak analogy. That's like saying highway driving makes libertarians correct. Along the lines of what the last poster pointed out...my wealthy, well-organized fascist nation with a bad ass military totally can't bomb you on the internet. But in the real world...?
Pedophiles troll for children to molest, at least one girl has committed suicide because of people who were tormenting her, murders have been committed because of disputes on the internet, and scammers steal billions from victims each year, while worms and viruses freely float about. This is simply not true. And, at least one country has attacked another via the internet. There is at least one internet crime ring in Russia. You evidently haven't spent much time on the internet. There are rules. Rules for you, rules on discussion boards, rules for domain owners, rules for web site owners, and the police from jurisdictions all over the world monitor your posts and browsing history. It is neither anarchy nor safe. .
If that's the case, then what's taking them so long? We're all friggin' waiting for the whole rotten system to collapse already.
Must be a pretty good system to take a lickin and keep on tickin. I wonder if your anarchy system could bounce back from that kind of a hit. .
What sort of hit are we talking about? There's no business cycle without profit ratios, so the same thing couldn't happen in an Anarchist economy. It would have to be something different.
The meltdown in 2008 This is true, in a state of Anarchy there is no financial system. Yes, like your neighbor stealing everything you own and blowing your brains out because there is no law and order. .
What does that have to do with the law? People can do this with or without laws being there. If anyone wants to kill you, there's really not much you can do about it, except if you're rich enough to hire bodyguards. Do you really think the pigs are gonna protect you? They'd rather tazer the fuck out of you for looking at them the wrong way. I am in favour of order, like all Anarchists, not of law. Law is not order. A bunch of rich cunts writing stuff on pieces of paper doesn't create order by magic. Order is not created by a power elite dominating you, stealing your money and blowing your brains out if they don't like you. Peaceful institutions create order. Feelings of trust create order. Everyone's needs being met creates order. There is no order in this society, only threats of force and indoctrination. It is the "order" of a jail, of a concentration camp, of an asylum.
Maybe you should learn what Anarchy is before you try to espouse it. And while you're at it, learn a little about human social behavior. We're not all the lovey dovey people you think we are. .
Have you even read the AFAQ? Or some basic author like Proudhon, Bakunin, Tucker, Kropotkin? There is no "special knowledge" of Anarchism. Either you've read about the ideas from the people whose opinions have molded the movement, or you haven't. Have you? Oh, are you pulling the statist/Christian "people are innately evil" bullshit? You do know Kropotkin refuted that shit more than a century ago, and science has been "rediscovering" its falsity every year or so? Stop being an asshole and read a book, please. That's all I'm gonna say to you. Please stop ridiculing the people who know what they are talking about.
I have 6 years of college, with a major in Psychology and a minor in Sociology. Political Science is required for all degrees no matter the major. Just because you've read certain books doesn't make you somebody special, and just because someone has written a book doesn't make them an expert on the topic. My question is, have you read any books other than the ones you listed? And are you saying that these authors have gone uncriticized? If they have proved that Anarchy provides the best social setting, why are we not in a world of Anarchy? No, I'm giving you some basic Psycho-Social facts. There will always be people who will bash your head against a wall and take everything you have if unimpeded by law. It has nothing to do with god or evil, it's just the way some people are, there is at least one bully in every neighborhood. I can say the same about you. .
Jackflash: Let's not go too far. What's it ticking for and towards? I agree with certain sentiments expressed by the OP, and Franc28 too. Seems to me they have little fear for real 'things' of life. Just a feeling? Does the need exist to actually articulate such feeling by any standard we are not willing to merely...feel?