no, providing information cannot hurt anyone. however,the use of the information provided can. and while you aren't responsible for how she uses it you are responsible for providing it. you don't know this girl so to tell her how to smoke a bowlful may be all the information she wants. looking at erowid may be too much effort for her, and there are people like that...people who aren't walking on a path towards TRUE knowledge and enlightenment because they would rather follow the crowd blindly. if you had simply told her to go to erowid and yahooka or whatever (uh, like sprout etal did....) then you wouldn't have actually provided the information, but instead given her a tool for learning that she can use if she chooses to.
I guess you missed it because there are many referances to the possible outcomes of certain drug usage. Now I'm terribly sorry that some people can't handle themselves without going overboard. I strongly feel that your case was the absolute worst possible and is a very rare, very extreme case. I guess some people can't have a piece of cake without eating the whole thing. Some people can't have a drink without getting drunk and I guesssome people can't smoke a joint without becoming a crack whore. I talked to this guy at a Dead show once and offered him some of this bowl we were passing and he told us that if he were to hit that bowl then he would end up going around the corner and buying a crackrock. To me thats insane, that smoking a little pot could make one want to buy crack but I guess some people are just like that. Please don't ASSume that everyone is going to be corrupted into a crack whore just from asking around. If she is gonna ask about it here then she is probably gonna ask around somewhere else. better to get your info from some of the good people at Hipforums than some dude with a date rape agenda
Man... I wonder if that girl has even come back here to look at all this bickering over telling her how to get high... I think it does suck that some people simply figure "I wanna get high... who knows how to get high the best? Hippies! I'll go find me some hippies and learn how to get high!" but at the same time I think it's an issue similar to sex ed in the classrooms. Just because they're learning how to use a condom and have sex, doesn't mean they're out there having sex. There are always the exceptions, but those kids are better off knowing how to do it safely rather than having no idea what they're doing at all. Same with pot, at least, I think. Telling kids not to smoke pot is what everyone tells them, hence if a kid wants to rebel... the people telling the kid not to smoke pot are simply going to irritate the situation by trying to help it. I personally think it's best that some people tell a kid to smoke weed rather than have the kid run down the street to the stereotypical sketchy man in a trenchcoat who won't start a kid looking to get high on pot, rather this guy could see this girl as a way to get to her parent's credit cards, or even worse... He might start a kid looking to get high on something irreversably harmful at that age... something like crack or cocaine or maybe even heroin. Ask yourself... how much stupid shit did you do when you were a kid? How many times do you look back and wonder how the fuck you ever made it THIS far in life? Hell, I used to do all kinds of shit... eating whatever shrooms we found out in my friend's cowfield, playing with gas and fire... making napalm and sticking it to shit and watching it burn, bb gun wars, shooting aerosol cans to watch them blow up in a fire... hell, me and my friends once thought it would be fun to throw some 12 gauge shotgun shells in a fire and run and see what happened. I mean, all kids do stupid shit at some point or another... mistakes are made in life, and though we may never realize it till later, that's just a fact of life and especially a fact of growing up. Look at it as good or bad, awesome or tragic, kids can't grow up without having these learning experiences that hit them like waves and knock them down, and yeah... sometimes they don't get back up, and it sucks majorly. However, those kids who do get knocked down by one of life's waves and then get back up, they are stronger and wiser and each time it builds them up so that they can discern more which waves to ride, and which ones to let pass them by, and also which ones they simply can't avoid and have to stand up against.... Unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about this. It's like when a mother turtle lays her eggs at night on the beach. She looks for light, and seeing none, she assumes that it's dark enough too lay her precious eggs without any potential predators coming after her or her soon to hatch babies. The eggs hatch sometime... sometimes at night, sometimes in the daylight... and the newborns run quickly into the ocean. Now, our chances for survival are different, I know, but think about it... some of them run into crabs, and simply end up at a road block.... some of them are going to get caught up in and taken down by birds of prey seeking food... some of them are turned around and have no idea where the ocean is, but they eventually get on the right track and make it... some of them stay in the hole, too afraid to go out and experience life just yet... and some of them run like hell for the water, all obstacles be damned... they're going to reach that water! People are the same way in many regards... Yeah, it sucks that not everyone makes it to the "water" or "enlightenment," but at least we can provide support and information to this kid rather than simply putting each other down for our own amusement when we all think we're trying to help. No body is in the right, and nobody is necessarily in the wrong... I don't know how many of us can think we actually have any idea what that is even. LittleladyKatie...(sp?), if you are still reading this thread... make sure it's something you really want to do first. Think about it for a while, because once you open your mind to these ideas that getting high can bring, it can be something that can totally be an awesome experience, but at the same time, it can also be hell and lead to things you might later regret. I would advise you to think long and hard on that first, and even to go so far as to meditate about it. To most people who use pot, it's something that most would say is extremely innocent, and they would probably tell me to shut the fuck up and let you run off and smoke it.... but to be honest, it's something that I started doing when I was two years younger than you are, and it was something that could have been hell, and sometimes I do regret things I did at that age as a result of my actions while under the influence. The choice is your's though, and your's alone... so make it wisely because opening the doors of your mind is something you should think about before doing it. Other than that, be sure to get some info from www.erowid.org.... I've been going there since I was about 15 or so, and it's never lead me wrong. I'm turning 21 in 23 days, so that's almost 6 years of going to erowid for help and advice... at least I think it's been about 6. Just be sure that you don't have to go near your parents or an authority figure for a while, and give yourself plenty of room (timewise) to enjoy the experience... listen to some good music too... if you like rock... you might check out some Led Zeppelin or some Grateful Dead, if you like Rap... maybe some Snoop or some Redman.... if you're like me though, and you love the blues... maybe some Buddy Guy and some Lynyrd Skynyrd... Oh yeah... one more thing... get a bag of munchies... it doesn't matter what kind... you'll be surprised more than likely, and I honestly think that they make those with stoned people in mind... Good luck, and don't get caught if you do decide to do it. If not, then at least you thought through it all and understand yourself better. When you can do that without drugs... I think that's just as awesome... That's just my opinion though. As far as other drugs and getting high... Your life is your own, but I would stay away from those, or at least hold off till sometime a lot later than now... most other drugs can do a lot of damage to your brain and body at your current stage of developement... and if you're like me... you need all the brain cells you can get... Hell, I probably need to look on the black market and see if I can get a hold of some extra ones! I'm sure there's a huge demand for brain cells on the black market...(j/k) Anyways.... take care! Peace
that sounds lovely but she wanted to get high off pot. meh i wasn't corrupted by this site, it helped me be well freindlier and more loving, but just roll it in a joint mixed with some tobacco
i would not want someone else to do it...if she was my daughter i would tell her how to get high do you think there are no benifits to marijuana also i mean its not like its hard to smoke a pipe if i didnt tell her she could probbly figure it out on her own
If it was my 14 year old daughter I would understand that people are going to tell her these things and I would give her all the knowledge I have on the matter and I would send her to Erowid.
.....and yeah I don't see anyone in here explaining how to prepare a needle and spoon. There has been nothing but friendly information in this thread. I'm sorry if I sound shitty but I really hate it how someone can say "get high" and someone else can think "Crackhead" Theres something really wrong with that if you ask me.
Noone here is teaching her..but erowid might...they have plenty of info about heroin, cocaine, meth, and all those horrible drugs... to me drugs r drugs... and they r all equally as bad...wether it be heroin, caffenie, alchohol , or everyones precious marijuana....
Once again, better to get your info from a real source than from Joe Date raper down the road. She can read about the dangers of all those drugs at Erowid as well. When her freaky guy friend on the corner tells her about it, hes going to tell her how great it is without any of the real dangers. People wanna freak out about how Erowid gives ALL of the information available on any given drug but they don't stop to think about the fact that people are going to use drugs and they need to know how to do it right if they are going to do it at all. It is a blessing that we have sites like Erowid to give people the proper information especially in a post-Patriot Act America.
dont worry about me, i was just curious. drugs are a ridiculous way to get "natural high". i get natural highs from other things. love, accomplishment, animals, nature. i dont need a drug to tell me i should be happy.
Good..i'm happy...because i myself get high off my life..not off substance abuse... I'm a natuarally happy person..i do not need things to make me think i'm happy..or to make me feel 'good' i don't do things cuz they feel good..i do what i think is morally right... i will admit...i've abused drugs (in h.s.) and i just recently stopped smoking pot..(past 6 mo.) because i realized..wow i'm 20 , i work in a freaking restaurant...and i'm a looser..where did pot take me other than the bottom of the todem pole...lol i mean ... pot hasn't ever made anyone successful...i'm sure there are those who will argue me...but...i quit smoking pot.. and now i'm happier than ever. once i quit...i got the motivation to get out there and change my life..as of a year and a half ago , i now work in a dental office as an assistant and am going to school to be a hygentist...i went from making minimum wage to making 12 dollars and hour at a very respecatable health care job... i'm not tring to tell anyone how to live there life...things r ok in moderation...and will not make u a "crackhead" but..i think if u abuse marijuana u will ultimatley be a looser... just my opinion...noone has to agree...or get all defensive about it...that's what i mean by alot of b.s. on this site...people freak out when people do not agree w/ them..but it's supposed to be 'free speech' and well, quite frankly ... i'ts not.... it's if u express ur opionion and it's different..u will get ganged up on...I just don't understand these so called 'hippies' they r everything they say there not... keep it surreal folks....
well..when u go from making 6000 dollars a year too 20000 it seems like ur rich.. and really it doesn't matter...because my life is not rich...full of wonderful things..and people... and why r u so negative???
Rock ON, AA! (That last one is a favorite of mine, actually.) Katie, why on earth do you think that it's the thing to do, to go out and try drugs? Do you believe that everyone who ever got fucked up from them, killed by them, arrested for them, just weren't as smart as you about handling it? YOU'LL be the one who can keep it fully under control? What's missing in your life that you think that you need to "get high" to fill that void? Have you thought about that? Try making your life interesting by doing interesting things before you resort to sitting on your ass on a couch and letting chemicals do it for you... Unless you've got money to burn... But drugs are a dead end, and they only FOOL you into thinking you're having such a great time in your life. REAL EXPERIENCES are the way to go. Like AutumnAuburn said, go skydiving. I'll vouch for that one. It's incredible! -Jeffrey
You make it sound like there are no kids who decide not to do drugs. I was one. And I came from a whole entire family of pot smokers. I have NEVER, not even ONCE, tried drugs. And I don't have any apprehension that I may have "missed out" on some positive experience I never got to have. My life has been lived with a clear head. I haven't had to worry about the health effects, the cost, the danger, the bad people associated with dealing, or the authorities. It's a fallacy to throw up your hands and say, "Kids are going to do drugs." They might not, if they are adequately informed about why doing drugs can be stupid and dangerous and useless. -Jeffrey
The fact that you are here, recovered, is a testament to your own strength, and probably to the love of your family in no small measure. I'm glad you're past that shitty period in your life and I wish you a gloriously happy future, Angelique. -Jeffrey