pitbulls

I know there's been threads about this before,but I just wish people would get away from the media hype,& recognize these dogs as the great breed they are.I don't have any pics of my girl lulu to put up at the moment,but she is the most loving,loyal dog I've ever had in my life.Not to mention,she goes through alot having to live with 2 chiuahuas(sp?)a min pin,& a cat lol.If you have a good loving pit that proves the stereotype is bullshit,put your pics up!Let's show the world they need to stay around,not be disciminated against & exterminated!!!!!!

 

People also need to realize that they're not natural, and that any issues with the breed are the problem of people who have created them. Time to man up, people. Don't punish the dogs.

 

Stop Breeding Killer Dogs! The Pit breed was developed for one reason. Violence.

Breeding and keeping animals as pets is a sick fucking concept anyway if you ask me...

ZW

 

breeding them may be sick, but to own one? what is the alternative? that the animal be homeless? or euthanized?

 

I love pitbulls. I will never own a dog that is not a pitbull. They are one of the most intelligent breeds, and the only thing in the world they want is food and to make their master happy.

 

and babies, dont forget babies

 

If you think pits were bred to kill,you need to get your shit strait.they were breed as a farm dog,to protect the farmer from mean bulls.If a bull tried to attack,the dog would subdue it,by latching onto it's nose.The whole violence/fighting shit came from vicious,irresponsible owners,who took advantage of their superior jaw strength.90 percent of the "pit bull attacks" you here of,can't even be confirmed as being a pit.As I said,my pit lives with 3 small dogs & a cat,hell the cat's her best friend.Personally,I've encountered way more mean german shephards,dobermans & huskies than I have pits.For that matter,by the stats,chows are way more likely to attack than a pit,& poodles account for the most dog bites in a year.You come in my yard,my pit might bark,but when your through the gate,the worst she'll do is jump up & lick ya to death.same with my mom's dog.Hell,I think there's like 4 pits that run loose here where I live,& they're all friendly

 

Yeah, I hear you man.

Thing is people believe what they're told. If the TV says pitbulls are demons enough times, people are going to eat what their fed.

 

Yes, there is a pack of 4 chows in my town and they have pulled shit on me before.
Several pit's too, they rarely run loose but the owners are not what I would the most responsible dog trainers in the world either.

I carry my own "tooth" lets say, just in case.

Fortunately I've never had to use it.


It's really the potential for violence that bothers me. Not so much for myself but attacks on women and children and other animals.

I'm not afraid of dogs, quite to the contrary, I love dogs and pride myself in my ability to handle encounters with any strange dog no matter their disposition, but some of these breeds are difficult to "read" and it's sometimes impossible for me to judge in an instant weather one of these dogs running up to me is gonna lick me or bite me. I shouldn't have to.


ZW

 

This is an uneducated statement.

I have two dogs, A black lab, and a pitbull boxer mix. My lab is dog and people aggressive. Hates men, hates them. And he'll play off that he likes you, then he turns around and starts snapping at you.

My pit, is very people friendly. And sensitive, and that's what most people don't get. If you can't read a pit, you can't read a dog. These dogs wear their emotions on their whole body. Not only that, but they tune into yours, much better then some breads. These are companion dogs, not sport dogs.
Look up what they were bread from.
Would all make better sense.

Any dog could play games with you... Singling out one bread is wrong just cause they have a stigma...

 

thank yooooooooouu

 

Fine, educate yourself then...

From wiki...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_Bull

Pit Bull is a term commonly used to describe several breeds of dog in the molosser family. Many breed-specific laws use the term "pit bull" to refer to the modern American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and dogs with significant mixes of these breeds; however, a few jurisdictions also classify the modern American Bulldog and Bull Terrier as a "pit bull-type dog". All three breeds share similar history, with origins rooted from the bulldog and a variety of terriers. The term can also refer to dogs that were known as "bull terriers" prior to the development of the modern Bull Terrier in the early 20th century.

The American Pit Bull Terrier:
In the United States, these dogs were used as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, to drive livestock, and as family companions; however, some were selectively bred for their fighting prowess, American pit bull terriers today successfully fill the role of companion dog, police dog, and therapy dog however, American pit bull terriers in general have a higher tendency towards dog aggression and constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United States.

American Staffordshire Terrier;....were bred to aggressively hunt down and kill vermin in a fight to the death;...The original bulldog, also known today as the Old English Bulldog, was bred in England for the sport of bull-baiting.

(ZW)If you don't know what bull baiting or bear-baiting is, I suggest you search it...


Staffordshire Bull Terrier:...The Staffordshire Bull Terrier had its beginnings in England many centuries ago when the bulldog and Mastiff were used for the sports of bull-baiting and bear-baiting; in the Elizabethan era, breeders produced large dogs for these sports but later on the 100-120 pound animal gave way to a small, more agile breed of up to 90 pounds.

Related human fatalities


Fatalities reported in the United States (2005-2009)


The following table summarizes the number of pit bull-related fatalities in the United States from 2005-2009 as reported by news organizations:
Dog Bite-related Fatalities in the United States. Year Total Involving pit bull-type dogs 2005 28/16 (57%) 2006 30/16 (53%) 2007 35/20 (57%) 2008 23/15 (65%) 2009 31/14 (45%)

Pit bull-type dogs often exhibit "bite, hold, and shake" behavior and refuse to release when biting, so some pit bull rescue organizations and advocacy groups recommend owners of pit bull-type dogs carry a "break stick" to lever their dog's jaws open if it bites a person or animal.


So I agree, it's not just pits but they are a pretty big factor.


As for reading a dog, Pits are easier than Chows or wolf-crosses that's for sure...

 

OH Stacy, baby you are sooo welcome...:cheers2:

ZW

 

Dogs don't practice deceit, that is a human trait. Dogs communicate with body language, watch the tail and ears, head held high or low, body stiffness along with other body cues. That is why tail docking and ear cropping is such a stupid idea. Some dogs not raised around humans don't read humans well and will do better in a group of stable dogs by reading them reading the humans. When you interact with a scared or aggressive dog you leave them with 3 choices nature has given them: fight, flight or submission.To a scared dog flight is the most natural, just observe animals in nature. But if your dog is in a closed area, you've removed that option and submission is a huge leap of faith.To a dog direct eye contact is one of the most threatening body cues. Keep some of this in mind the next time your dog is aggressive to some one. Most people I work with who have aggressive dogs fail to correct them when they behave this way, leading the dog to believe it is acceptable behavior.eace:

 

I know what you mean. My pit was sensitive as hell. I could tell he was really upset whenever I was angry with him. And whenever he met a stranger he got so happy he couldn't contain himself.

I used to leave him in my yard and everyone in the neighborhood loved him. I think him just being the nice ass dog he was did so much to dispel the pitbull stereotype.

 

I'm going to breed a dog and train it just to eat you.

 

I was about to debate statistics in the other thread but i knew it wasnt going to get anywhere with them but i do agree in the bold they are a big factor

and sam..good luck with that, me and my shot gun will be ready hahaa!

 

That's sexy.

 

Just for the record, I have met some very lovable Pitbulls.
And some that were so friendly as to be annoying!
Pits can easily be insecure, clingy little pains in the ass.

As for my statement about domesticating animals as pets, I mean that in general.
There was a time when animals were needed for work, Dogs for hunting and herding, Ox and horses for the plow, etc. The developed world no longer needs beasts of burden or herding dogs (I'll save my rant on the cruelty of equestrianism for another time) Making a creature subservient to your will, solely for the purpose of your own pleasure, it's not fair to the animal.

For instance, that dogs and cats must be surgically altered (spayed, neutered) to be manageable as a pet should tell you something. Neutering reduces life-span among other things...

Also, I fear that few have the necessary time or space to give dogs especially, a healthy amount of activity. Dogs were mostly bred for some kind of work originally. Take Border collies and other herding dogs. They go absolutely bonkers when they can't work off all that energy.

If you've ever seen working ranch dogs you'll know what I mean...Herding dogs that work all day, everyday. The ranches I have been around, these kinds of dogs are rarely treated as pets.
Herding dogs and cutting horses are however being fast replaced by ATV four wheelers...

Pit bulls being bred from Terriers have tons of energy.
IMHO few folks in modern life have the time or energy to give these dogs the attention and purpose they need to have fulfilling doggie lives.

ZW

 

:iagree:Most canine behavior problems come from insufficient exercise and unfulfilled breed specific drives. A lot of dog owners are couch potatoes and just expect their dog to do the same. There is nothing more unnatural than a tied up dog. I've adopted dogs with behavior problems and after a short while with my dogs, following me daily working my 40 acres, they become calm, stable dogs. A malamute I had required a 5 mile run daily to keep her from straying so I took her most every day, me on a bike and her and my other young dog beside me. My neighbors chickens used to constantly stray from her property, she got a border collie and I haven't seen them out since. He is always in the barnyard watching and herding, and very happy and fulfilled. Since we domesticated dogs it's our responsibility to fulfill them, not the other way around.