M HCL from Poppy

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  1. Ganjabeliever

    Ganjabeliever Advanced Knowledge

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    Wow, this recipe really works and damn good at that.SWIM attempted this recipe using 20 mammoth heads and resulted with decent yields. The final product was a little wet but there was a definate crystalization which led swim to believe they were the morphine HCL. Swim ingested it by scooping it into a cup and mixing a drink in it.
    The high was much calmer and relaxing than poppy tea. The high felt like amazzing pure MORPHINE.
    Thanks Trichome.



    For dried poppy heads and / or poppy seed, grind it up into a coarse powder. The reason for this is that extraction takes place easier and quicker because alot of small particles have a larger surface area to extract from than one large particle.
    STEP 2: You need a pot containing 10 times the weight / volume (W/V) of water than that of the starting material. Since hypothetically we are starting with 10 grams we will need 100ml of water. (for 1 gram you would need 10ml, for 3 - 30ml etc etc). Bring this volume of water up to 70 degrees Celsius (158 F).
    STEP 3: Add your material to this liquid and let it steep for 2 hours stirring occasionally. One should notice the level of the water on the side of the pot, if this level drops down due to evaporation then water is added from a warm kettle kept on hand during this period. (The reason SWIM has extended the time period is because different densities will extract at different rates, so 2 hours is preferred to allow for this.)
    STEP 4: Once the steeping period is over the liquid should have gone an amber / brown color. Take it off the heat and strain it immediately through 4 stacked fine coffee filters. One will notice (for gum and fresh material) that a lot of gray wax-like sludge is left in the filter, this is a latex by-product and is discarded because it contains nothing of use. For dry material and seeds you will have the same wax like substance along with a heap of sludge left over from the ground pods or seeds, this is also now useless and should be discarded. The reason for it being strained immediately is because of heat expansion. Heat will expand all other particles in the liquid but the filter will not let them pass through, this filters almost everything except for the alkaloids and some other water soluble materials

    Put this liquid into a double boiler and place the thermometer in the liquid so the temperature can be watched.

    Bring the liquid to 70 degrees Celsius and have it remain there.

    Mark the liquid level, if it drops add small amounts of hot water to bring it back up.

    VERY SLOWLY add calcium carbonate to the solution while keeping the liquid agitated

    SomeSWIM needs to help here as the pH meter needs to be immersed and watched carefully.

    Bring the pH of the liquid to 9.1

    Quickly take the double boiler off heat and discontinue agitation of the solution.

    At this pH the calcium carbonate will cease to be soluble and as the temperature of the liquid drops the calcium carbonate will "fall out" of the solution or "precipitate".

    This precipitate will be a brown/beige color and has carried with it the morphine content of the liquid with a VERY slight codeine taint. This is known as calcium morphinate or "raw morphine base".

    The liquid is filtered off through a high grade filter and discarded.

    The precipitate is kept and dried out into a cake, its size will depend on the volume of CPS liquid used.

    One can use an oven at very low temperatures with the door open to facilitate the drying of the morphine base.
    Dissolve Calcium Morphinate in HCl acid (just enough to cover it / dissolve it)
    add ethanol then evap to recrystallize into a HCl salt

    you can use iso instead of ethanol...
     
  2. Positive.Vibrations

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    Sounds like a fun experiment with a good outcome :)
     
  3. trichome22

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    yeah, no problem...

    Smoke it, smoke it, smoke it, smoke it, smoke it.... seriously, put some of that shit on tin foil or in a lightbulb pipe and you will experience a rush like no other, seriously...

    So you just mixed the wet ethanol soaked M hcl in with a liquid?
     
  4. Ganjabeliever

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    yep. Well, not I, but SWIM mixed the wet ethanol soaked M hcl in with a liquid. Fruit punch to be precise. It was bitter gritty and nasty but it worked OH-SO-GOOD.
     
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    do be careful with ingestion that may contain more alkaloids than you may think..
     
  6. Ganjabeliever

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    ^That's very good advice. I was very irresponsible. I just drank up all of what i made and it made me pass out for a couple hours and waste the peak. but i was still thoroughly trashed when i woke up.
     
  7. Ganjabeliever

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    ...and i used iso and it worked fine. thats probably why it was liquid-ee though.
     
  8. trichome22

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    Wait wait wait, you used iso for the recrystallization? im pretty sure i told you not too...

    ISO is poisonous and can cause blindness with ingestion of as little as 4ml.

    so if you ingested iso you are lucky to not have any problems...

    If you MUST use iso, at least wait for it to evaporate fully....

    please be careful, i dont wanna hurt anyone.... unless i get to see them suffer lol

    trichome

    PS: smoke it you fool, or at least snort, eating mophine sucks balls....
     
  9. Ganjabeliever

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    i waited for it to evarportate. I put it in a warm oven. it definately evaporated. it was the %9 percent of water that didn't evaporate.
     
  10. trichome22

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    ok, good, good. You use 91% iso? I would really suggest trying to find 99% iso, but 91% is fine if not.

    so have you smoked it yet? Like seriously, this shit is made to be smoked. why else would you make it into a HCL salt? If you are just going to eat it you can just eat the base, no need to recrystallize.

    Knowledge is totally power....
     
  11. Ganjabeliever

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    YOUR RIGHT. I really didnt know what i was doing most of the time. the on;y downside was that it was runny. otherwise i def. would have smoked it of snorted it.
     
  12. Mr.Good Cat

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    Anyone have any sugestions as to which type of pods produce the highest yields?

    I have heard Tasmanian and Turkish are some of the best, can anyone back that up ??
     
  13. Ganjabeliever

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    it really doesn't matter. because your going to use a substantial amount every time for minimal results. But no matter what its going to be enough. Just buy mammoth pods as I'm sure they have MORE morphine but not necessarily more potent... Enjoy. this shit really works.
     
  14. fast68chevy

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    what exactly is calcium carbonate? apparently it is egg shells, chalk, calcium supplement pills,


    and what kind of ethyl or where you get it or which you use?

    ethyl what?

    and where to find a PH meter?

    i live in the middle of cornfield no where so i have no idea but im gonna need to know in like 2-3 months or so..

    is there any need to go past the raw base stage/step with the calcium carbonate if you are going to smoke it?

    or do you have to go on and use ethanol or iso regardless of how you are going to use the end product?

    can you just smoke dried raw opium "sap" as well?

    i hope so cuz wow the above stuff is just way too complicated to try.. wow..

    thanks..
     
  15. Ganjabeliever

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    I didnt use a ph meter. I should have though. you can get calcium carbonate in any vitimin aisle at pharmacies or grocery stores.
    Ethyl can be everclear. ethyl alchol aka ethanol. but i used iso and it worked fine
     
  16. Mr.Good Cat

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    - did you use toilet bowl cleaner for the hcl acid?
    -how much iso do you use ?
     
  17. fast68chevy

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    awesome info. i wonder if you can do this with raw gum? or if it has to begin another way? or completely different steps altgother?? i read that you have to boil raw gum in water and with some chemical or something for like 6 hours or something, thats crazy to me wow.,., :eek:

    why wouldnt baking soda work as the binder to drop down the good raw morphine stuff, after being boiled?
    baing soda always works for other things just fine it seems.. afaik..

    i need to do some more research hmm... :confused::D:xmastree:
     
  18. trichome22

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    Raw opium gum is almost on par with M hcl, i know because i wrote the tek.

    Raw opium has morphine and codiene and terpenes which when smoked is epic and very tasty.

    Morphine HCL lacks the codiene and terpenes, and tastes more like chemicals when smoked.

    Morphine HCL is more potent but i prefer the taste of dried latex opium.

    Dont use toilet bowl cleaner, buy at least 30% HCL acid.

    Any questions about this post in thread or PM me, i know all.
     
  19. twang

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    i feel weird cause everyone is askin chemistry questions and shit...and the only question i have is what to use to get this "M HCl"
    can i just order dried poppies from www.poppiesshop.com or something and use that?
     
  20. Ganjabeliever

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    Yes. you can make morphine from the pods. I did so and had significant results. An opiate has never made me fall asleep but as soon as that M HCL hit my stomach i was out for like 6 hours and then FUCKED up for the rest of the night. Mine came out runny and liquidy though but i used heat and air for a long time and it just wouldn't dry up. hell, i coulda just ingested a bunch of HCL acid. but it was def fun and better than the 16 pods i coulda barely drank.
     
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