2c-e is not similar to LSD

ive mainly tried nasal doses of 2ce and its not really like acid at all. very different head space, visuals, and body sensations.

ill be testing 2ce out in high oral doses in the near future so ill compare it to those when i can. but i dont think my opinion will change much.

 

If i had to compare 2ce to acid using comparisons between other chemicals I would say :

2ce is to acid as
Crytal Meth is to MDMA

I'm pretty inexperienced with 2ce and crytal so take that into account but I guess what i'm trying to get at is it's not A World of difference, but there is quite a difference. I've only used mescaline via San Pedro and I think 2ce is just as close to acid as it is to SP.

The headspace is really the only thing similar to mescaline for me in that it's very clear, but it lacks the warmth and euphoria of mescaline. The visuals and intensity are much more akin to acid.

 

2ce has a pretty fukt up headspace at higher doses though. It's very "dark", I would say.

Also, I've always had INSANE amounts of euphoria on 2ce. Even more euphoric than MDMA and opiates, in my experience. I even find 2ce to be very relaxing/sedating.

 

2ce is chemically similar to mescaline, but i don't believe it (or any of the 2cxs) are made FROM mescaline.

i'd also like PV to compare/contrast 2cp and 2ce

i do find it somewhat similar to LSD, but those are really the only two psychedelics i do. and i haven't done really high doses of either.
obviously there are differences though.

PV, it seems i get pretty bad stomach aches on 2ce whether or not i have food in my stomach. i'm also nervous about increasing dose b/c of the bodyload i get at ~20 mg

 

Im still gonna think it's made from mescaline, wont really think one way or the other til we get some legit research on the research chems tho.

 

It's not actually made from mescaline. They're both phenethylamines though.

 

Well how are they made?

 

This is how 2ce is made:tongue:

 

Damn had to ask

 

hahaha I'm not very well-versed in chemistry, so I don't know shit, aside from the fact that they're both phenethylamnes. lol

 

this doesn't surprise me.

but it doesn't matter what YOU think. that doesn't change the fact that it's not made from mescaline.

someone please do me a favor. i don't have word, so i can't. copy and paste the "recipe" TNS posted into word. press ctrl + F to find "3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine"
that's the chemical name for mescaline

i bet it doesn't show up in the WHOLE article, but i'm pretty damn certain it's not the starting ingredient.

i especially enjoy this line of the lab protocol. "3.87 g of 2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethylphenethylamine hydrochloride (2C-E) as magnificent white crystals"

 

It didn't show up anywhere. lol

 

What dose is it more euphoric than MDMA at? cause you're not going to convince me that it's even in the same ballpark as mdma in terms of euphoria at 20 - 25 mgs.

 

Like 50-60mg. When I take doses in that range and lay down on a bed or get into a comfortable position while listening to some music in a dark room, my entire body is filled with what feels like very euphoric electrical currents. It feels as though every single nerve in my body is getting some kind of otherworldly massage or something. I've even gone so far as to refer to it as an "orgasm of the soul". It's amazing.

Of course, I've never felt that same euphoria just walking around or performing tasks on 2ce. Just when I'm in a relaxing position and listening to trippy music; especially chord-heavy music.

 

sounds like a circumstantial kind of thing. Do you vomit at this dose? have you ever taken high doses of mdma ?

 

You're probably right. It likely varies from person to person. Many people agree that the body load is replaced with euphoria though, at higher doses.

Yes it makes me vomit, though it only lasts for about 5 minutes, so the vomitting is over as quickly as it starts, basically. I usually pre-load with DPH, and that seems to lessen the intensity of the nausea a little bit. I'm gonna try some ginger next time, I think. That seems to work a lot better than DPH, based on what I've heard.

I've only done MDMA once, and it was amazing. haha It was about 5-6 years ago. I don't know how many milligrams it was, since it was in pill-form, but it was three triple-stacked Green Nikes.

 

try MDMA again, take 2 pills on an empty stomach (read pillreports to see if anyone has else has taken the same batch if you don't have a way to test). I personally think pills are more reliable than 'molly'. But anyways the euphoria from any of the 2c's and even traditional psychedelics pales in comparison to MDMA (keep in mind i haven't done N,N DMT). The only thing i've found that comes even remotely close is mescaline or the latter end of 5 meo dmt but both of those feel subtler. On high doses of MDMA there is this sensation where the euphoria is almost TOO much and like your brain is just going to pop any minute from serotonin and dopamine just dripping from your brain.

Most decent single pills i heard contain between like 80-120 mgs of MDMA.

 

^ OH yes and have an attractive female on hand!!!

 

I'm sure I'll try MDMA again in the future, but I'm more concerned with psychedelics, personally. I think the euphoria I get from 2ce has a lot to do with visuals and headspace influencing how my body is feeling, like a form of synaesthesia between emotional euphoria and physical sensation.

 

I consider MDMA a psychedelic, especially if you consider pot and ketamine psychedelics