I can't believe it! I was watching CNN a little while ago, and I can't believe what I saw- people were out in droves protesting Conan O'Briens misfortunes. There was more enthusiasm in those protests than there was in anything else I've seen protested in the last little while- [health care and the wars ]. Is this what our society has come to? I know alot of you disagree with what I'm saying, but what have you done? other than sit on your ass saying 'we need a leader/ we need someone to follow'. Why don't you just get up and follow yourself and what you care about. It's getting too late to make this world a better place. PAX
Good point. As I think about it, the leaders in the '60s grew out of the movement, not the other way around. The media is the new opiate of the masses and it has lulled us straight into the age of entertainment, where late night talk shows and celebrities hold our attention, while politics and world events play second fiddle.
I do protest, I was just at an medical marijuana event last year, and this year I am protesting the afghanistan deploying of troops, which ironically greatly affects the man I am with right now. If you want to see any change in the world you have to active in making that change.
I think that 'HIPPIES' - all of us, were the leaders of the movement and we all led by example. We believed that UNITED WE STAND. We were rebels, but we had a cause: that was to make the world a better place to live in. I guess you are the exception to the rule. PAX
very good point. i just think i'd be talkin to walls by myself. but at least im gonna protest the monetary system on Zeitgeist Day which is March 27th, 26th or 28th not sure
Somebody told me a long time ago that if you are a hippie, 'wherever it takes you, go there proud.' and I think that's what you should do. Even though you may be talking to yourself, you're doing what you think is right. PAX
It's very easy to be an "armchair activist" but it takes a lot more courage, thought and sometimes willpower to stand up and be counted. I have never been slow in standing up for what I believe in but, Pax, we're a dying breed. The "I'm alright Jack" part of our society has really got a hold. I know there are a lot of young people who are prepared to stand up for what they believe in but the infrastructure is no longer there. In the '60s and early '70s it was relatively easy to join like-minded campaigners, but now joining an action group doesn't necessarily mean that any "action" is going to be taken. Petitioning government or big business is one way of making a point but is only a small part of the process
Yeah there are not many that stand up and make their voice heard, but there are a few and I hope one day there will be a ton more. I am relatively young so I didnt live during the 60s or 70s, but many ideas of that time by hippies greatly influences me even today. I will do all I can to make my voice heard and make the change .
This was never my intent in starting this thread but alot of people would like to protest but how? I happened to stumble upon this grass roots movement and it works something like this: alot of the banks that cause the economic downturn are making a shitload of money now and are basically saying 'fuck you'. well, fire the bank that you're dealing with if it so happens to be one of those pricks. very simple- take your money out of that bank and put it into one of the smaller banks or a credit union. And please- tell them that you are firing them when you take your money out. Maybe if enough of us do this, we'll send a message to them. In case you're interested I did this over ten years ago when we moved into a small little town. And, to steal a quote from smokey the bear, only you can do it! PAX
I was talking to the woman who told me about this grassroots movement yesterday, and she said " why should you be surprised that no one has answered your thread? Hippies don't have any money". LOL. It would have been nice to have gotten some feedback on this. Oh well, this is my last BUMP. PAX
we had all those great tunes urgeing people on to try to stop the war and fix other social problems.there still is but nowhere like back then.but yeah i hear ya.it's up to each person to do what's right instead of waiting for others to do it for us.
Sorry Pax, I would have jumped in, but I already have my vast fortune deposited at one of those little mom&pop local banks. :sifone: I think you're friend is right, though. Probably the younger hippies don't have any money and the older ones bailed out of places like BankOfAmerica long ago. I remember when some radicals tried to blow up one of the California branches. Please, kids, just put your money somewhere else. Don't engage in illegal or harmful activities!
I have no idea which bank is better than the next. I use City National and don't even know if it goes beyond Miami-Dade County. But I have used it for over a decade now. It is within walking distance that is my criteria, but I do walk past BOA on the way. However, I am pissed that I got no interest last year. I only check it when they send the tax form. It has fluctuated from $700 to 3 or 400. This year it was $93. I guess they passed the recession on to me. Wonder if their shareholders took a hit? :frown: Do I trust them? NO. Do I have much choice but to deal with them? Not really. They sucked me in with that debit card.
The way interest rates are, these days, we could just as well keep our money in a coffee can under that loose floorboard.
I remember the story about Ken Kesey addressing a protest gathering by singing "Home, Home on the Range" after other people's passionate and strident calls to man the barricades. My notion is that hippie is a state of mind, a way of life, a way to see and experience the world (not to mention the universe), not a political movement. Plenty of cross-over, but mostly it's the realization that we really are all One, and figuring out how to live as best we can in that amazing space.
I was going to rant and rave about how important this grassroots movement could be, but after reading recent posts in other threads I've come to the conclusion that I can't compete for people's attention who cannot see beyond 'what am I going to wear today? or who will I call next on my cell?' It's unfortunate that getting involved in something like this may have a great impact upon our future. It will only be a footnote at best in our history books. Sorry- no thrills here. I guess it's time to crawl back into my hole. PAX
^Well, I wouldn't make too many assumptions about people's values (what will I wear today?) and the extent to which people are or are not involved, living the Dharma, and so on.
Fuck. They have more luck protesting that too than your silly ideas of protest? Want to make a difference? Pick up a gun, just then maybe can you make a difference. I think you're right, it's too late. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TuYYIesIpY"]YouTube- The Explosion - No Revoution
It is really not the protest nor banks that causes things to happen, it is our day to day testaments, how we live our lives, that account for the disparities in this world. Banks are not too powerful, they simply represent the aborted concern of the population. I pledge allegiance to the flag. By the way, only forest fires can prevent bears.
