Combination

4aco is much stronger that mirpcoin imo. i have to take alot of miprocin to trip alright. but 4aco sits me down fast

 

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So tell us about it, Pav. lol I want details

 

So last night was the concert. It started at 7:30, and I drank down my 20mg of 2C-E at about 6:25, since it would take longer to kick in than the 4-AcO-DMT. At 7:12 I dropped a capsule of 30mg of 4-AcO-DMT down my throat. Normally I would have dropped the powder straight onto my tongue, but I didn’t want the combination to start fully kicking in before the show started.

At 7:30, the show started (surprising for a rock concert; I guess the musicians are getting old ), and at this point I was feeling that strange 2C-E come-up. My vision was getting slightly sharper as well as my hearing and my sense of smell. Jeff Beck came out first for a solo set, and it was alright.

However, towards the end of his set (I believe it was about 8:10), I started feeling a tightness in my arms. I thought it may have been some form of vascoconstriction, so for a while I was massaging my arm trying to get the blood flowing again. I’m still not sure exactly what was up with that, it could just have been sore muscles from a work out earlier that day, but my arms still have blood circulating in them, and I don’t have gangrene yet, so it probably wasn’t too bad whatever it was.

Beck left the stage, and the crew came out to clean off the stage in preparation for Eric Clapton’s set. As I was waiting, I started getting pretty nauseous, and it definitely did not help that the people behind me were loudly discussing the time they were sitting on a boat trying to sail for the first time and they could not keep any food down.

As soon as Eric Clapton came out however, I forgot about all of that, and they did too. At this point I was peaking pretty hard, and as the first notes started being played, I completely lost myself in the music. The visual distortions were getting pretty wild, and as people all around me started lighting up their joints, I almost felt like I got a contact high just from the presence of the cannabis smoke. My eyes went blurry and shot full of colours; I could not see down to the stage until the smell of cannabis blew off a little bit. As soon as I smelled all that Cannabis, a smile plastered to my face, and it stayed there for the rest of the night.

Partway through Clapton’s set, it started to feel like the whole stadium just turned into a reverberating tin room. All the sounds were bouncing and echoing off the walls like the whole band was sitting inside a small cave of some sort having a private jam session. I often feel like this on 2C-E, but it felt like all the music that they were doing was being played specifically for me, like the whole concert was dedicated to my ears.

This went on until the show ended (It was a VERY good show, by the way). I was feeling like I was on top of the world when the show ended. I didn’t feel any nausea at all, and I was still peaking. As I got onto public transport to start on the ride home, I looked up at the roof and saw a Persian carpet style pattern form, and start to breathe heavily. Wherever I looked these ridiculous Persian carpet patterns would form and they would start moving like they might as well have been water. The floor of the bus would swirl into fractal like patterns, and those would also start twisting and turning like they were underwater.


Once I got home it was around 11:00, and I was right at the end of the peak at this point. I ate an orange, and proceeded to crank up some music that I could listen to. I was still feeling great at this point. At about 1:00AM, I went to smoke a bowl, which of course brought the trip back slightly.

However, after I had smoked the bowl I started to get really tired, and I started to feel this really, really heavy crash; it felt like all my serotonin was depleted. I stayed up for a while enjoying the still lingering visuals and the happiness that was starting to fade into being tired.

Around 4:00AM I for under my covers with some headphones and music, and stayed there for the rest of the night. I believe I fell asleep at about 5:30AM.

When I woke up, I was still feeling tired and depleted, but now that I’ve rested and eaten throughout the day, that crashing feeling seems to be far gone. It was a great combo, but pretty intensive at certain points. I think that if I were to do it again, I would maybe even crank up the 4-AcO-DMT to 35mg or so.

Now this thread can be used a nice reference for anyone interested in this combo.

 

i'm glad it worked out well for you. it sounds like you had a blast

 

Nice report man It sounds like an amazing trip. I can only imagine how insane the sound distortions would get in a concert setting, but I'm sure it's intense. lol

 

High doses of 2c-e generally result in me booting everywhere and marveling at my own excrement. I could only imagine how out of it I would be in a public setting + the 4-aco.

Definitely working on obtaining some more 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt to give this a shot.

 

just wondering, did you go to the concert alone?

 

Nope.
I was with my brother.

 

Did he know you were tripping?

 

my bet is that he didn't

 

Correct.

It wasn't too noticable either.. aside from the dilated pupils.

 

yea i can have pretty intense trips, but appear "normal"
it's all going on inside your head

 

it depends what i'm on, but on 2c-c/i/b i act VERY extatic in the normal world, but if i'm at a psytrance gathering i act normal...for a psytrance gathering hahaha

...but i'm a very loud, extatic person when i'm sober, and my friends know instantly because i have blue eyes which makes pupil dilation very apparent

 

I have blue eyes too, so I know how it is. lol I can still act normal on 50-60mg of 2ce though, and I can relax my eyes so my pupils don't show too much and people can't tell I'm on anything.

I don't know how it would be on 4-AcO though, since I've never tried it. lol

 

I just wanted to update this;

Something I wanted to add was that this combo left me quite depressed and low feeling for something like 2 weeks after I took it. It may have been just co-incidence, but it would be interesting to see what some other people have to say about this if anyone else tries it.

 

I expect that would happen, these are both very strong and you took decent doses of both. Big strain This is why I can't stay up for 3 days on mountains of drugs, I get bad tails on my trips.

I love smelling cannabis at concerts, and even better when there's enough of it that you start to get buzzed off it.

 

have you noticed any depression from 2ce or 4acodmt alone?

 

3 days AND drugs?
I can barley even stay up for 18 hours before I start nodding out, haha.

In the case of this concert, it wasn't even the smoke that got me high, just the smell of it felt so.. good. I love everything about cannabis, and it's presence just shot a surge of love throughout my body

I've noticed some depression from 2c-e, or at least I do when I stay up all night and don't get any sleep.

I've never experience any from 4-aco-dmt, however.

But the two in mixture caused an intense after-fall.
I wonder if 5-htp would have helped.

 

i've never noticed any from my relatively low doses of 2ce