I look at the clock at the same time everyday!

Discussion in 'Psychic' started by MayQueen~420~, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    nonsense does serve another purpose , and another and another . nonsense is wild and necessary to full conciousness . this can mathematically be demonstrated .
     
  2. MissBHave

    MissBHave insert clever phrase here

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    I do the same thing
    Except it's 11:11
    I was kinda trippin out too
     
  3. M U D K I P

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    I said such nonsense.
     
  4. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    What is an electrical charge? What is an electric field? For that matter, just what exactly is "space?"

    To spout words like that and think you have actually explained anything is misguided. Yes, you might as well call it "pixies" - because at this stage of scientific accomplishment, we really can't say anything much more definitive about the true basis of these things.

    "Dilute reality?" What is reality? Are you saying that you know what reality is and others don't? Based on what - the current body of scientific knowledge? Science is a process, and an evolving body of knowledge. It's always incomplete, and probably always will be.

    Did the principle of relativity exist before Einstein discovered and described it? Einstein based his description on observations made by scientists at the time that differed from what they expected based on Newtonian physics.

    Do the principles of psychic/spiritual experience NOT exist just because no scientist has yet discovered and described them? There are lots of people who have observed psychic/spiritual phenomena that no scientist has yet been able to evaluate, analyze, and describe.

    If you haven't personally observed any of these phenomena, maybe your instruments need recalibration. ;)
     
  5. M U D K I P

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    Nigs deez days.... What you seem to be saying is we don't know the why, only the how, and even then not much of the how. I'm aware of that, and what I'm saying is if we know the how, there's no reason to assume some other "how" you make up is the real one and throw out the one we can prove.
     
  6. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    I wasn't aware that anything had been "proved." Did I miss that part?
     
  7. M U D K I P

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    Apparently you did, because what I described has been thoroughly proven and documented. We may not know why it happens, but we know it does happen and we know some of how it works.
     
  8. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    What you described...I guess you're referring to this:

    "Chances are you just look at the clock a lot and because you have this notion of always seeing 7:20, you notice every time you look at the clock and it's that time."

    I didn't notice any proof or documentation...is that the part I missed? Would said documentation explain "how it works?"

    Also you did preface your description with "Chances are..." I have no problem with this. I might even agree with you. I do however take issue with the attitude expressed in this sentence:

    "Please don't listen to anybody telling you this is some kind of psychic event."

    This smacks of dogmatism, mudkip, and I take issue with dogmatism of ANY kind - religious dogmatism because it's so unprovable, and scientific dogmatism because it hides rigid personal bias behind a facade of socially accepted authority - when the authority itself is based on principles that reject the whole notion of dogmatic beliefs.

    To deconstruct your statement, it seems to say: I think I'm right, but even if there is some possible doubt please don't listen to any view that contradicts my personal bias.
     
  9. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    a is for nonsense like the a at the end of a pow-wow joke .
    a may or may not equal a .
    thus : a definite such nonsense is mostly irrelevent

    scientists have plenty of nonsense which may well be completely
    diciplined and functional nonsense . what's good is what works to the
    experimentalist . this , dear scientist , is not satisfactory grounds for judging the good/bad set of nonsense a differently focused way of knowing may hold as relatively useful .

    the sword of reason - it can make for cruel nonsense . some people tho find it an entertaining toy .

    the 7:2o girl ? best wishes to her and all that time-traveling .
     
  10. M U D K I P

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    Silly hippies and your crazy logic. You guys should have your own reality show.
     
  11. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    That's a fairly puerile way of dismissing whatever you don't understand or don't WANT to understand, without having to articulate a well-reasoned argument.

    Do you have an answer for my previous post? Or was the quotation above your answer to that as well?
     
  12. M U D K I P

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    No, that was the answer to yours as well. I don't want to understand how looking at a clock and noticing you saw that same time yesterday is a psychic experience. I'm ignant.
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Puerile is a dammed sexy word, but ignant is messed up.
     
  14. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    Funny how you gave up the argument when I started talking about "rigid personal bias..." ;)

    Well you can walk away to save face - but you have my bite marks on your butt. LOL
     
  15. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    Thanks for noticing, dope, I was particularly enamored of that word.
     
  16. M U D K I P

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    Yea, I'll walk away now to avoid further embarrassment among strangers on a hippy forum on the Internet.
     
  17. thedope

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    Although to be fair, it is probably a case of cultural emasculation as opposed to inherent childishness.
     
  18. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    Embarrassment is a choice engendered by rigidity.
     
  19. M U D K I P

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    Maybe when I'm older and wiser I can feel a draft in my living room and suddenly know it's the spirit of a dead loved one, and then use it as evidence in debates like it isn't equivalent to people on a hilarious ghost hunting show chasing shadows.
     
  20. zengizmo

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    It takes an exceptional student to surpass the teacher's understanding.
     
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