Yet another 2C-E Report.

Yes, another 2C-E report right here. This is a first time experience with 2C-E. It was 25 mg oral, and 6.5 mg up the nose. I'll try to tell it in a linear pattern, but really there is none.

Really, if you don't want to read the entire thing, just take this. 2C-E is exactly like LSD, except every part of the experience is 100% perfect.

Well... first I ate 25 mg, with a friend who ate the same. Then I put 13 mg out and cut it into 2 equal lines. The capsule was swallowed about ten minutes prior to the snorted dose. 2C-E was the greatest pain I have ever felt in my life. It could have been the trip that was causing me to believe this, but... I don't know... there has never been a drug that has had such a strong effect on my mind... perhaps it is feeling... as irreversible as it is intense and literally earth-shattering?

So right after the 2C-E snort, the pain immediately started. I used the left nostril, which is out of normal character, but of course it's always better to use the side with more airflow. This pain was not like the pain of any other snort... well... I guess it's indescribable. All there was, was pain. I was half-blind from it.

I started to know that I was going to puke, but it was still a ways off. During this period [about maybe from 7 minutes after snorting it and up until probably 30 minutes after snorting it] extreme mucous production started. I was blowing from one nostril, then the other, then I'd cough some shit out of my lungs, and just continue trying to handle the output my face was making. As quickly as this effect started, it left. I knew it was time to puke, but I didn't really want to do it.

I went in the bathroom to puke, but I never did. My stomach did empty through my mouth, but it wasn't a vomit as much as a 'spiritual purge.' Hard to describe.

Little did I know that soon, Consciousness would reveal itself to me.

Anyways, I won't really go into the details of the trip, just my interpretation of what I learned, at least, the parts I can put into words.

During the entire night, I felt the most extreme feelings of 'deja vu.' I don't quite know how to interpret this, but I knew that it held some type of significance.

I think that Consciousness is it. It's an entire language with only one word. Consciousness. There's no real other way to describe it, but consciousness is everything. We are all one, I understand in a different way, and this world, and God [of all religions], is just as real as you or I. I also think that my premonitions and deja vu is somehow all just me seeing my own birth and death. But really there is no death in Consciousness.

To sum it up, our entire reality is just inside "a giant brain."

The futility of life, is more real than life itself. Everything will happen as it was planned to happen, and then it will start all over again. The knowledge we gain in this life, wealth we acquire, will not follow us.

At some certain point, Consciousness was born. Consciousness started out knowing nothing, and soon knew everything.

I don't know... another one? The fact that we die, is because it's the only way that we will ever understand our birth.

Really, I just think it's gonna take time for me to fully understand the experience I had... anyways have a good day.

 

sounds like a great trip... after i tried 2c-e i've had much a closer idea of what LSD is like from how its described. its so great to have a break from your usual organic tryptamine visuals and trip.

 

Alot of 2c-e trips sound exactly like some LSD trips I've had right down to the patterns. I'm still sort of scared of this one though.

 

in what ways was LSD not 100% perfect?

Yes! I got this too, I felt it as a state of 'arrival' or "Aha! This is what you've been waiting for." Like all my life has been working up to this moment when I am high on 2c-e. It's part of what makes it a good substance, this feeling of "this was supposed to happen like this".

Just to shake up your metaphor a bit, don't consider the brain a transmitting device for consciousness in an unconscious world, rather consider the brain a focusing device for consciousness in a sea of consciousness.

Don't be. Start low. 15mg orally was fantastic, very euphoric and pleasurable, with an awesome body high and head space. It reminded me of LSD in some ways too, in the raw arousal of the enjoyment of being . . . however one would describe that feeling. Every atom in your being celebrates this moment.

 

I never got euphoria from normal 2C-E doses. Higher doses, those are A++. But very intense.

 

See, this is what makes 2c-e sound exactly like lsd to me...I still regard lsd as the most precious and meaningful thing to happen to me, that exact feeling of lsd being the whole reason ive lived and that Ive been living my whole life training to be able to experience it

I've been reading TR's and thinking about it for the past couple days...I just have no money and just wanna try it not have 500mg lying around

 

Rip the thought from my head, pretty much exactly in my own words. I showed this to a friend and he said "You don't have multiple accounts on here do you?"

I explained this subject at length to him.

But really I think the 'deja vu' [I know it's not deja vu but it's the closest term I can find to describe it.] is just a vision of my birth/death as I interpreted it at the time that the birth/death happens.

On LSD wasn't 100% perfect?:
It seemed that acid filtered out certain things; there was a block to the knowledge of what the actual thought that was going through my head was and causing the great feeling of realization. Sometimes on LSD when I was really onto something; figuring something out, the thought would leave or end, incomplete. 2C-E? Didn't happen.

The euphoria/visuals/thoughts that I experienced... wow. LSD is awesome, you're right, but 2C-E is out of this world.



I slept from 5:15 AM until 11 AM, and I felt pretty 'fried' up until around 1:30. Now I feel as lucid as I ever was.

LSD fried me for about a month, [after 6 weeks of one dose per week] it took a bit to get back in my original head. 4-AcO-DMT fried me for about 5 minutes after the comedown, I felt a bit drunk, then I was as lucid as ever again. This shit seems to fry you in just as intense of a way as LSD, but it lasts nowhere near as long.

The thoughts that I couldn't live with, the futility of life, it's still there, but now... in a way that inspires me. My honest opinion, if I would have had the same trip on LSD, made the same realizations, I don't think I could have ever integrated that experience. Much to my surprise, I feel at peace after getting some 'hard' realizations.

2C-E is the drug. There was a thread a while ago, saying 2C-E, easily better than acid. I didn't take much stock in it then... but oh let it be known, I'm a believer now.

 

I'm not a believer, but I think Im gonna try it

I know what you mean about losing your train of thought easily on acid, I find secluding yourself alone for a good 30minutes and sitting and thinking makes it alot easier to stay on track.

 

Ha ha, I remember I used to describe this feeling by comparing Freud's "Free Association" to the act of taking LSD, but they share the "resistance."

 

I haven't had L around for years so I can't really compare, but the trips provided are definitely everything I thought I needed L for, in terms of a deep moving meaningful time filled with great visuals and TONS of profound thoughts.

Definitely like how you can hold onto and really retain whet you are learning on 2ce. Like the knowledge that you are given is MEANT to be carried around the rest of your days. I think when approached as a deep meaningful drug it will give deep meaningful results.

Definitely feel you on the revealing of Consciousness, or the collective consciousness, or God, or whatever one calls it. Never got it quite so clearly as I did on 2C-E, and definitely enjoyed it because I felt 2ce give the clarity of mind to understand what is happening around and to us during the experience. Allows for WAY more integration than I'd experience on shrooms, that I know.

I'm with you, it's some really really neat stuff. (understatement because, really what can be said?)

 

i'm with you guys on the "deja vu" feeling. for my first trip (12 mg orally) i described it like seeing a story about birth/rebirth and motherhood, etc. i felt the same feeling of "everything is as it should be," and a great connection to everything/ONE. the highest dose i've taken is 20 mg.

but comparing to LSD, i think i've taken higher doses of 2ce. i do like it almost just as much as L, the major deciding factor being health/safety. LSD obviously has a great safety profile and the best we can say about 2ce is that it might not be too bad. but it definitely feels harder on my body.
it might take you to a similar space as L, but it's a bumpier ride. i think it fits with music BETTER than L. LSD is better for cloud gazing IMO
there are definitely some differences btwn 2ce and L

 

The birth/death and one consciousness reminds me my 2nd 2c-i trip.
The "deja vu" feeling reminds me my 1st 4-ho-met trip.
Then i tried one more time 4-ho-met and get a ++++

I think you're going into the right direction, whathever you're looking for...

 

Whatever I'm looking for... lol.

What the fuck should I even be looking for?

All I know is, the answer isn't somehow coded inside of a chemical you can put into your body. There's no real magic to drugs. Tripping is serious and can reveal many things, but it's still just a drug, even if it's not comparable to 'narcotic' drugs.

No insult here, just a rant. Your post just kicked off a thought. In fact, the post isn't even directed at you. I'll just delete the quote.

EDIT: Said that sober. Funny reading that after writing below.

 

The message is insanity. Being insane is knowing the meaning of life.

I really think the meaning of life is the exact moment of self-actualization achieved at your death. 2C-E is so much like this, with the extreme feelings of deja vu at the very depths of perception, on weight with your actual birth and death. The drug is at the same time what birth and death feels like. The moment of self-actualization in birth/death is the meaning of life. But really, birth and death are the same thing. Birth and death feel exactly the same. I felt like I was dying, I knew I wasn't, but I literally felt like I was dying. [And I took a lower dose, I've only tripped on this twice.] This was the most horrible experience of my life.

Anyways all of these things, it's all telling me that the meaning of life is insane!

I really want to know, the only way that there is hope, is if Consciousness is a part of God or if God is a part of Consciousness. I think that is unknowable and only the answer to that question will make my life mean anything. if I can't get past that, I go nowhere. I truly believe, in fact, the logical conclusion, is that all gods are as real as you or i, but are they contained in Consciousness or is Consciousness contained in one god's head. It's a paradox. And a paradox is not an answer.

It makes me wonder. Now I realize in my insane state the message is insanity. There's no other way but true self actualization is in insanity in the moment of your awareness. you can't imagine without just knowing. And knowing that this is the type of thing, asking anyone else would just mean I'm asking myself.

It's hard to explain in fact it's a perverse joke! The meaning of life is within drugs?

 

I hate to triple post. Fully back to reality [almost] all there is now is 'fried.' After sleeping, everything should be made clear.

But even now, I can't mark the experience as collectively "bad."

The unfinished ends are just unfinished ends, "Everything just is." is what I'm ready and willing to accept. Just to take that and be happy.

 

who says self-actualization doesn't happen until death? and what do you mean by self-actualization? Abraham Maslow [personality theorist/psychologist] would probably say that self actualization is something people strive for because they know they're going to die one day and need to reaffirm their existence while they still can...well...i guess the humanist WERE pre-existential personality theory, so he might not have said it like that.

 

I don't know if I'm using the terms correctly, or if I even know the terms to use.... It's hard to describe these feelings, as I've never had them before.

It feels like Consciousness presenting itself to me.
An entire language, with only one word. Consciousness.

That's all there is; and all the meaning there is to be drawn. Consciousness.

But that's only really just 1% of the feelings perceived. It can all be explained as "a psychedelic trip." But also this life can be.

What's worse yet is knowing of so many different alternate realities, but of some dimensions we truly can't perceive. So we really wouldn't know which of the alternate realities we are in. Whether we are in the reality where Consciousness is a part of God, or where God is a part of Consciousness.

Alright, I'll see what revelations sleep brings. All I know is I still fear death. Even in this meaningless life, I fear death. So I'm not trying to do anything stupid. I'm down to trying to figure this out to find some type of meaning before I die. Even though truly knowing the meaning, is death. All I'm seeing, is visions of my death. That's what the strong feelings of deja vu are.