You *must* die on LSD

Cool thanks. I think I agree with you/that makes good sense. Although there was definitely an acid trip In recent memory, where my friend was wiggin out like normal and I felt like I was slacking behind. We later on smoked weed and I think it actually finally slowed down my mind, and for the first time I started getting somewhat good visuals (friend's face turning into an elf looking thing, cerebrus looking mini heads forming on my feet). I really was doing it wrong. lol. I do think my mind is just way too all over the place, that it fails to see what's in-front of it at some points. But as pr0ne would say, dosage. At some point even my mind will break.

And yeah, LSD is always very fun but can also be educational. Very good 8 hour interpersonal trip into your mind (and I guess also out of it if you take enough). I also think based on what I've read here and such, that I may try a High 700-1,000 ug dose at some point myself. I think I'll probably save the big one for when something pivotal happens, though.

I graduate University soon enough and I will be looking for a job abroad. If I land one, that will probably be a good time to trip... Into my next phase of adulthood! So much excitement and mental attitudes and such to build going into something like that. Could be interesting to burn LSD into decision process. The feeling of success and completion alone would probably add to the trip too.

 

Ye nothin like a trip when you got your shit together lol, enjoy

 

"So I did. I opened up entirely and surrendered to death. And set about the business of dying once again. "
http://personallifemedia.com/podcasts/236-buddhist-geeks/episodes/74654-ordinary-people-get



READ THIS NOW.


This IS the trip I had.

This IS what I am talking about.

 

Listening now, wish there was a transcript for part 2...

 

Ever notice your thoughts while tripping can feel like your life as already passed. That your thoughts, are as if they span your whole life, even to the parts you haven't lived yet. You can see the energy of the thought, as it is now and how its going to be, as if you transcended both?

 

this is very similar to my trips as well, especially the

"I had a very visceral sense that there were some kind of malevolent forces, some kind of evil that would just wash over me and take over if I let down my guard."

i still cannot seem to get past this part and im taking a long break before tripping again

 

that force is you. don't fear it. face it head on, with all your will. decide that you will either get over this fear or die trying, and then do it. hint: you wont die.

 

but why is it so decieving if its a good thing?

 

what's a good thing?

 

ego death, i feel the most instinctive feeling that its not a good thing, and it confuses me why i get this feeling everytime i trip if there really is nothing to worry about

 

Death itself isn't deceiving. Some are deceitful about it, though.

 

its strange to me that people just randomly enter and exit this place but for me its one those I dont know? Questions...It sucks that most people i know are afraid of it and dont see it as like a rebirth type thing...Its really personal which brings up the question why? Why is life like this? Its amazing but strange....

 

and the "i dont know"question eases it off for me along with the fact that everybody experiences it...Interesting stuff

 

then don't trip dude

it's not for you then

not everyone can readily engage in ego-death and take pleasure from it

 

To be honest, he probably doesn't know what ego-death really means, it's an easy thing to misunderstand. Once you're in that so-called state the next big question will be, "why was I even afraid to experience such a beautiful thing?" Really. If you ever really experienced ego-loss that's what it is, pure beauty. Feeling what it really means to say ohm, it's like first hand perfection. I'm using all these words to kind of describe it but it's worthless really. It's beyond any written description, it's pure experience. Remembering the experience and talking about it is in no way as good or close as the real thing. I can only point to it verbally.

I found that all my bad trips I used to have rooted from resisting the drugs effects, example, being on the verge of a break-through trip with a slice of anxiety, and then feeling as though I wanna "calm down and sober up" or back out of the trip even though I'm already dosed high. Conflicting interests/experience almost always equal a negative experience, which of course just results in unsuccessful ego death, which will then in turn just leave the user with ambivalence (residual fear and conflicting opinions) towards psychedelics. There's nothing to be afraid of, once 5 blotters hit the tongue the decision is already made, stop trying to hang on. To me trying to hang on is like asking for a slap from a girl who's more than willing to give you a blow job.

When ego-death is on the way. Don't even fight it, lmao. I don't know why people would want to fight it any way. Losing your mind is nothing you could think of, just because in that the nature of that state you really can't think, or at least see the need to. Only 'think' about it, and you'll never 'experience' it. And the more you over complicate it and think about it the more likely you'll just self induce a bad trip. This is I can almost guarantee, I've watched it happen. I think lots of people have bad trips just because they hear there is the possibility and so their worrisome nature perpetuates itself during the trip.

 

Yeah I agree I felt that very instinctive fear too. I do know what ego death really is to, I have experienced it on salvia. It was like being dead and being a part of everything but still not sure whos perspective it was. It was like I was 20 different people at the same time. It's impossible to explain of course, its just salvia is the most divine drug that there is, even calling it a drug seems disrespectful, I would rather call it divine sage.

 

i dont see why i should quit tripping just because i get this fear?

apparently a lot of people get this fear, does that mean they should just give up tripping entirely?

i really dont see why anyone would say some people arent ment to do it, are we not all the same?

apparently i found it, so im going to end up doing it one way or another probably with a high dose, i dont see why i should just give up tripping entirely because im afraid of it at the moment, im just taking a long break

i really am craving L for the first time in a long time, not really sure if i should dose if i end up finding some

 

i meant high-dose tripping. obviously you can still pop e's and run around on 2 hits or whatever. but you gotta just jump in the water to really learn in your bones that the one who dies in these experiences is not you. and your fear is only as powerful as you allow it to be. only as loud as you carefully listen to it. only as moving as you move yourself to it. you are choosing to obey your fear. the fear will always be there, the difference between conquering it and being conquered by it is in your will.

you ever had anxiety problems? the anxiety you can't control, it comes and goes. but the way to live with it is to not be constantly "listening" to it; it's just a broken valve in your head, it keeps spewing the same crap over and over and here you are, afraid to dose high because its telling you all kinds of stories and giving you all sorts of excuses.

not every thought in your head is useful or good. some should be disposed of at birth.

 

Dude, the reason why to avoid tripping if you won't allow yourself to "break over" is exactly what swoosh said. because you fail to do so, you leave yourself ultimately confused about the whole experience and what to make of it.



Say it, swwwweeeeet almight, just say it, man............




When you feel that anxiety coming on......












When you feel like you need something to hold on to.......some control
















Say it.









When the Devil is at your doorstep, and you think he's about to take over your house.......







SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







"Go ahead. Bring it on.................KILL ME!"
and no one is around....to judge you, but yourself. it's an inner conflict, not fake, like you are trying to impress your peers or save face from embarassment.








Then you are free

 

That's it exactly man, but lots of kids have never faced a real challenge in their life. Lots of posturing but no real samurai behind it, consciously and deliberately laying his entire life, in a visceral and real way, on the line, for something greater than what he has right now.

My stance was "Only one of us is surviving this, me, or my fear." and you know what, it's just like with women. from a distance, to the anxious one, it can look like an insurmountable challenge. but as soon as you put your foot down, say "what the hell, you only live once", and make that first HONEST, DIRECT, TRUE, PASSIONATE move that is the embodiment of everything you are are hope for . . . you get a smile, a number, a date, a mate. It just happens, and it happens to those who really put themselves out there. The guys standing around on the sidelines watching nervously and fidgeting and wondering why they feel so afraid and how can they not feel so afraid . . . by the time they wake up, the party's over. Don't be that guy Play the game.

You ever get that nervous feeling when you see a girl you like? and you know when you listen to it, and respect it, what do you end up with? 3 seconds later hitting yourself and saying "FUCK i should have xyz". that voice is so afraid of any damage to the ego, to the social construction of you, that it wont let you grow as a true being. slap that voice in its face and do what you want to do, what you know in your heart is a necessary step in your growth as a human being.

you know, or listen to the disfigured voices of your parents in your head. i'm sure they'll give you all sorts of wonderful advice

"Dont talk to her, shes too good for you"

"dont talk to her, she wont like you"

"dont talk to her, youre too good for her"

"dont take a higher dose, its not good for you"

"dont take a higher dose, you might not come back"

such garbage. hell and heaven are in your mind, and they take turns talking to you. hell is the boring voice