The Acid JITTERS~! ?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Desos, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Actually LSD tightens muscles, causes muscles spasms, and makes coordination harder while totally mixing up the signals your brain is releasing.

    There's the actual answer, and also why backs often hurt the next day

    Take a look at your hands/arm next time, I mean a good steady look especially during the first hour or so, they'll probably be shaking.

    Also, this happens normally, think of weird shit that happens, shooting pains out of nowhere, random cramps, legs kicking from nowhere. Being on acid is just going to heighten the sensations.
     
  2. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    LOL this thread is so epic

    "yeah, I always feel weird stuff like that"

    "oh it's strange, I get those unusual sensations too"

    "I know, my eyeballs always feel so weird, what could that mean?"







    YOU WERE ON ACID!
     
  3. thedope

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    Chemistry and joules.
    I think your question is how do I measure up to phenomena that I have read about or otherwise witnessed. How far, how much, or how high etc., are all merely limits we would impose on ourselves.
    We are spirit reaching toward spirit in all things, whether or not we feel spiritual or couch our phrases in "spiritual jargon".
     
  4. Archemetis

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    from my point of view the body is the vehicle for emotion. my best guess about the jitters is that its the result of moving into (through the expirience of mind and emotion) tension patters held within the musculature of the body. my question is what is the mental and emotional state that triggers the jitters? are we moving into repressed aspects of ourselves when this occurs? i would be curious to know if this were a common connection...

    i cant really speak to this on lsd...i dont know that iv ever really expirience it. with other psychedelics (ayahuasca) iv often found myself seizing and twitching involuntarily. tends to feel more violent as im aclimating, but once i gain my footing in the expirience the jolts become more rythmic and soothing and releasing.
     
  5. thedope

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    Where our treasure lies there lay our heart also. Our emotional tenor arises as we constitute our situation. Our emotions respond to our appointments of value. An example of which follows:

    Twitching is caused by the discharge of overloaded capacitors.
     
  6. Archemetis

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    i concurr.
    what im really interested in though is the somatic connections of the individual. and in understanding the pathways so that i may be in a better position to help facilitate the bodies innate ability to heal.

    this is what i do...this is my personal avenue of study and work.

    emotional tendancies enter into neuromuscular calculations just as surely as do physical forces, and these feelings, attitudes, and reactions produce all kinds of distortions in the actual levels of effort generated by the skeletal muscles.

    heres an example (bear with me) taken from the text job's body by Deane Juhan:

    "lactic acid and anxiety:

    the possibilities without our vast network of nero-chemical processes for imbalances which generate vicious circles are legion. an emotion or attitude initiates a neural or metabolic change, this change deepens or complicates that attitude, which results in increased chemical changes, which even further exacerbates the attitude, until major mental or physical symptoms appear. patients with anxiety neurosis show a large rise in blood lactate when they are placed in a position of stress.
    lactate is the pricipal waste product of anaerobic glycolysis, the synthesis of ATP in the muscle cells without the use of oxygen. its rise is related to anxiety in the following manner: one of the common effects of anxiety is an increase in muscle tone; this can be either because of the general charging up of the musculature during an actual flight or fight response, or because of local areas of tension that are generated by one or more of the constrictions or postures characteristic of chronic states of worry and anticipation. as muscular tension increases, local metabolism increases also, in order to support the higher level of tonus; but due to pressure exerted by the constricted muscles on the local capilaries, local circulation decreases. (making it more and more difficult for waste removal and cellular nutrient distribution) when more ATP is demanded in a muscle cell than the available oxygen can help to syntheseize, the anaerobic process takes over, which produces more lactic acid. so anxiety, through the mechanism of increased muscle tension, produces lactic acid. so here we find a mental state and a chemical reaction reinforcing one another, reciprocally increasing until serious local or system wide imbalances or damages occur. and so anxiety and the array of symptoms that follow, can be sustained and deepened over much longer periods of time, and can be irritated by more and more situations."

    at some point intervention becomes nessesary, if the patterns of tension are built up as the primary automatic responce to daily living, because the nessesity of circulation to these areas is crucial in breaking the cycle. the musculature tightens and stiffens to the point of pain. to relieve the area of cellular wastes and to promote cellular nutrient distribution is the only physical mechanism that will relax chronically tight muscles. breaking physical patterns of chronic anxiety.

    this is how the body transmutes emotional imbalances.

    i recognize that there are a number of ways to go about breaking these cycles...mentally, emotionally, physically. this is speaking from a physical route. (the importance of bodywork)
     
  7. thedope

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    The first barrier to healing is the desire to get rid of it. Resist the temptation to complain, to establish negative associations.
    The simplest and most immediate way is exercise.
     
  8. Archemetis

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    then what of the desire to feel it? that is the process of healing.
     
  9. thedope

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    Feeling is directly proportional to attitude or conceptual stance.
     
  10. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    it is also proportional to the depth of (self)awarness.
     
  11. thedope

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    Also breadth also length also height, all conceptual stances.
     
  12. RooRshack

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    Those twitches happen stone cold sober to a lot of people, including me. I've heard people blame them on weed, alcohol, or other things, but I do know what you mean, and they're not because of drugs, my best guess is that your body is essentially correcting for nerve/communication lag that it may have begun to develop.
     
  13. auri_rain

    auri_rain Olá!Eu sou alto como uma.

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    is this also why it's hard to talk to people?i usually end up laughing :D
     
  14. Archemetis

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    always i appreciate your posts thedope, but sometimes i dont know how to read your intentions or meaning. what is it that you are advocating exactly?
     
  15. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Well to be literal it is why jaw tension happens.


    But jesus people, occam's razor, the most obvious answer is usually the right one. I took a bunch of drugs that compltely disrupts my body's electrical and chemical systems along with how the brain recieves information in its neurons and my body is doing weird shit now.

    no shit, you don't say?
     
  16. greenspectral

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    occam's razor... what a cop out.

    stems from your materialist-reductionist disposition, which will obscure certain knowledge from you.
    reading these posts, its evident that some of you don't have any base of understanding when it comes to kundalini energy, and in general have made no effort to research Vedic science.

    again, I agree with the OP.
     
  17. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    No, it's just we follow the actual physical science of the body and aren't crazy and attach some ridiculously asinine meaning to something that anyone with a few human anatomy or biology classes has understanding of.
     
  18. Mr.Writer

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    Yeah fuck occam's razor, just another piece of crap from a long legacy of hyper-rational and materialistic old white guys in europe. Now, let me tell you about what India has been working on! oh boy! You see,
     
  19. thedope

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    Equal measure.
     
  20. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Seriously guys, acid isn't this spiritual, religious thing. It's a chemical, made in a lab, from a fungus, that just severely disrupts how your brain receives information. It's drugs, nothing more.
     
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