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Discussion in 'Movies' started by Shale, Dec 19, 2009.

  1. sobebella

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    firstly, i just say im cheap as hell and did not see this in 3D...or even grade-A 2d....*caugh*



    butttttt


    that, despite my cheapness resaulting in slightly poorer quality, was so easily the greatest movie that was ever made and will ever be made. it was truely an eye opener, it hasnt really chaned my views, but its put them in the form of a film, and made a mind blowing message that is so easy to descipher, that mixs the amazing just wowness of the graphics and the mindgasm of just seeing it in action what has been in my mind in a sence for ever.


    i rates it ∞/10, every person alive should see this epic movie.
     
  2. sobebella

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    oya, also, ill DEFINATLY be seeing that in 3D, no way in hell id miss that chance.
     
  3. sobebella

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    saw it in 3D....WOW O.O
     
  4. Shale

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    I picked up on this and it may just be wishful thinking but i've seen some articles on it since, the tree of souls is reminiscent of ayahuasca.
    aya = spirit ewya= na'vi spirit
    ayahuasca=vine of souls vs avatars= tree of souls

    Both have shamans that lead the healing rituals by these plants. Just a very interesting conicidence if Cameron had no knowledge of ayahuasca.


    The movie was amazing, i've heard some people complain about the plot but people today will pretty much find anything to bitch about regarding movies and I think compared to Star Wars or Lord of the Rings this movie was superior. The visuals and action are amazing, the scenery and landscapes are beautiful, the acting was not bad at all for this type of movie, and while the plot may be one that has been done before it still was done in a way that kept me entertained.
     
  6. AttentionDeficit

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    I saw this in Imax 3D and it felt like I was just in a great daydream the whole time. Regardless of what anyone thinks about the plot, the visual experience is worth a ticket. As for the movie as a whole, I'd give it a 7/10.
     
  7. wild-flowers

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    Its definetly one of my favourites
     
  8. sobebella

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    muy gracius, thats some very interesting stuff for me to check into ^.^
     
  9. Shale

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    I just saw Avatar again, this time in 3-D IMAX.

    I hadn't realized there was an IMAX theater within easy access, but it was just a 40-minute bus ride away and a 20-minute walk, half lost in the sprawling Aventura Mall.

    IMAX 3-D has much more detail as it fills your field of vision almost completely. This was the first time I saw an IMAX screening - and it really increases the 3-D experience.


    The glasses are different, with diff colored lenses (greenish/red) like the old fashioned 3-D glasses. Also they were larger - to accommodate the larger field of vision of the curved IMAX screen.

    Oh, I think that was my 5th time seeing this movie - same number of times I saw Star Trek back in June.
     
  10. AttentionDeficit

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    I just watched Star Trek for the first time today! It was mindblowing, I still don't know how I fully understood all of the time traveling
     
  11. Rhodes

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    Was a bit overwhelming at first having never watched a film in 3D as in there was so much cool stuff to look I couldn't decide. I enjoyed all the hidden political messages as well, very cool film.
     
  12. ChronicTom

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    We just finished watching it... unfortunately not in 3d... but still... that is one fucking awesome movie...

    although I now hate humans more then I did before... lol
     
  13. ganesha1967

    ganesha1967 barefoot bellybearer

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    I have my third visit scheduled for next tuesday... 3D again, of course. :D

    Ohh, then just wait for the special eidition of the movie... James Cameron said that there will be 40 more minutes of stuff, some of which might increase the hatred.

    Only hint: the details of Tsu'Tey's death - very intense...

    [​IMG]

    Wiggling toes, even tough they're not blue,

    ~*Ganesha*~
     
  14. ganesha1967

    ganesha1967 barefoot bellybearer

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    "PAD" - the Post-Avatar Depression has now triggered media
    interest and reports overseas as well.

    A German regional news website called "Der Westen" (presenting news
    for the Rhine and Ruhr region) has a report on this growing
    depression syndrome coming up after watching James Cameron's
    current blockbuster movie:

    View original German article.

    Here the English translation of the article's text:

    The motion picture "Avatar" obviously leads to a wave of depression
    (by Jean-Luc Mette)


    "Avatar" obviously makes many people depressive. Thousands
    of people lament on the internet that they would rather live on
    the planet Pandora. Experts spot behind the seemingly ridiculous
    and surreal wish a real desire: longing for a better world.


    "Avatar", since this week the film with the highest gross income
    of all times, apparently causes depression in some viewers. It
    even fosters suicidal thoughts, if one believes thousands of people
    lamenting mostly on internet fora. They wish to live on the fictitious
    alien planet Pandora, surrounded by fantastic creatures and paradisic
    landscapes. Beneath the seemingly ridiculous and surreal wish, experts
    on depressions see a serious and most real desire: longing for a better
    world.

    To John, everything has turned just grey since he saw "Avatar".
    "Life is so senseless, I want to get off this dying Earth" he
    wrote on the avatar-forums.com web site. He claims to have no positive
    energy left in him, he wishes to live on planet Pandora together with
    the primitive people called Na'Vi. The problem is: neither the planet
    nor its natives are real. James Cameron made up the story of the blue,
    ten-feet tall bipedes living in harmony with their world and themselves.
    John is not alone, there. More than 5,000 entries on Avatar-Forums deal
    with "Avatar Depression Syndrome" also known as "Post-Avatar Depression".

    Support groups on Facebook

    Since most of these laments originate from the US, psychologist
    Norbert Wendt from Dortmund supposes that it is a purely American
    phenomenon so far: "Depressions after this film are certainly
    possible. However, the tendency for hysteria is larger in the US
    than it is in Germany".

    On the naviblue.com fan web site this topic has had 7,000 hits so far
    and reports from Europe on it are increasing. The news empire CNN
    reported on it and other news networks followed up in kind.
    The social network Facebook offers support groups and on YouTube
    videos on that topic are published. Google lists 164,000 hits on
    a search for the keywords "Avatar" and "depression" - with a sure
    tendency of an increasing number of hits to come.

    Psychotherapist Barbara Gausepohl from Herten has seen the most
    successful film of all times herself and takes the budding wave
    of depressions serious, even without knowing a single case
    personally as yet. "By the 3D effects you are totally immersed
    into the movie. And then you wake up to be in that grey and
    dreary everyday world around you again.", she says.

    Without a doubt, the pictures of the special effects extravaganza
    are breathtaking. And the human beings, portrayed as capitalist
    and ruthless as they are, give way to a general criticism since
    they remind us strongly of ourselves. The gentle and sensual Aliens
    appear more humane than human beings.

    Husbands become unwilling to sleep with their wives

    Part of the Avatar depression are also cases only insufficiently
    described by "curious" or "weird". For instance, dozens of husbands
    confessing anonymously on the internet that they did not want to
    have sex with their wives anymore, since they are now attracted to
    ten-feet tall blue-skinned women with tails. On naviblue.com web
    users discuss possibilities and options of genetic manipulation
    to become Na'Vi themselves. Some even consider suicide. "I don't
    want this normal life anymore. And that makes me suicidal", someone
    calling himself Jefz wrote on avatar-forums.com.

    Statements like the above lead experts to suppose that the persons
    concerned had some psychological problems before a movie theatre
    visit. "The movie cannot be the cause, but rather a trigger", says
    Claudia Wolper-Effertz, psychologist from Aachen. "It is an escape
    from reality. People are unhappy and the movie makes them recogize
    that. That can indeed trigger depression." She thinks, however, that
    this new kind of disorder will heal in most cases without treatment.

    The basic wish for a better world and a better life, however, is
    okay to stay.

    (end of article)

    Well, it seems that just another fantasy film has made people wish to delve deeply into the fictitious world portrayed there and to leave the sick real world behind... I know some works of fiction building beautiful worlds that made me wish to go there and live among the beautiful people... it hasn't led me into depression.

    I'm used to dealing with escapism since I took many trips to worlds such as Phantasia (from Michael Ende's The Neverending Story - forget the movies of that title, they're junk!! Read the book!!), the nameless world of The Dark Crystal, Tolkien's Middle-Earth, the World of Two Moons - later called Abode - from Wendy and Richard Pini's Elfquest, the cursed island of Lodoss - OK, that is merely Middle-Earth on Japanese, but fun, too... and then those worlds in outer space... lots of them. Ever pictured yourself in the role of one of those valiant space heroes such as Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, James Kirk, Jean-Luc Picard, Dylan Hunt, Spike Spiegel and Jet Black (heh, you gotta love Cowboy Bebop!)... point is: there's many entrances into the fantasy realms and they provide neat temporary exits from sometimes dreary and sad "here and now".

    Even though this newest ticket to escapism takes us to moments of strong emotion making tears well up and examples of vile human behaviour making one swallow and realize "damn, that is exactly us capitalist and greedy human beings as a whole, there..." it isn't enough for me to abandon all humanity and try to get off this world. Better to stay and do some networking with people who share the wish to make it a better place. There already are groups and certain families doing so...

    Luckily the author of the article did not read the thread on naviblue.com about founding a real-life Na'Vi tribe on Earth...

    Wiggling toes thoughtfully,

    ~*Ganesha*~
     
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  16. ganesha1967

    ganesha1967 barefoot bellybearer

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    Yep, that might be exactly what James Cameron did in 1994 :D - after all, he himself said that the idea for Avatar spawned while he watched Disney's Pocahontas...

    We should be glad, that he didn't transplant Flit and Meeko to Pandora.

    Wiggling toes, grinning,

    ~*Ganesha*~
     
  17. ChronicTom

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    Lets see..

    around 1000 people took part in making this movie... at a cost of (we'll round up to be fair) 400,000,000.

    So far it's taken in $1,917,419,460... thats 1.517,419,460.00 profit...

    or 1.9 million dollars per person involved in the making...

    I don't think people downloading the movie has in any way hurt the industry or the people involved in making this movie...

    Then you look at the reality of logistics... the nearest Imax screen to me here is in Sudbury, 174 miles away... the nearest theatre is 37 miles from here and it is a small twin screen theater... so even going to see it there isn't going to give me a 'big screen, 3D experience as it was meant to be seen...

    to sum it up... in no way do I feel bad about downloading this (or any other) movie...
     
  18. Shale

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    I have stolen in the past. I think everyone has. In fact, when I took a lie detector test to join the PD, they started by asking "how much have you stolen." At the time I was young and only "acquired" some office supplies and eating utensils from the USAF.

    However, Jim later taught me how to boost from the register of a pizza joint we worked at. We rationalized that the manager was also boosting and the owner ran a separate register tape at night to show his loss, which helped subsidize his profitable businesses.

    The point being we can always rationalize stealing from the man or whomever. Still doesn't make it right.
     
  19. ChronicTom

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    We differ in that I don't believe that something is stealing, unless someone loses something.

    As copying something off the net doesn't 'take' anything away from anyone in a physical manner, there is no theft.

    The potential revenue of the film isn't hurt in anyway, as I won't/can't go to a public theater to see it anyway. I spend the money I have on things like bills and food and such.

    And to top it all off, nobody involved in the making of the film is starving as a result of not getting my money.

    I do however agree that if I was doing this and making copies and selling them or charging people to see them, that should be considered stealing.
     
  20. SunLion

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    I saw it in 3D at an IMAX theater, and loved it. The 3D effect was so "real" that it didn't seem like a "gimmick," it was just seamless... I was quite impressed.
     

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