HipF n00b here; what 2c u recommend???

Indeed. Very reliable.

 

hey all. just another thank you for the useful information... glad that I came and joined this forum as the other one I was at for the past 6months started giving infractions/violations/takin away rep for posting information even more vague than what I already said here, lol.. i of all people understand why this type of activity needs to be closely moderated and kept tabs on, etc.. but believe that there is such a thing as takin' it to the extreme, so. blah.

still can't really decide what to do, but hey, we'll see what happens. good to have something to work with.

i do have a question concerning dosage though, measuring it in particular. from what little i've seen and what more i've heard anyway (haven't researched TOO much yet) about digi's is that the .001's are really quite expensive and on the limited budget i'm on i probably won't be able to afford one.

can anyone attest to the fact of whether or not a .01 would be accurate enough to weigh 'em out? (yknow 10mg, 20, etc in increments of 10 obviously).

or would it be necessary to find another way? i've heard about liquid dosing but not too sure.. would assume that one would just get a large liquids syringe or something and add, say, 50ml of vodka or water, and if 50mg was then put in there and shaken up real good, each ml would be about 1mg correct? a little more detailed help or instructions for this situation would also be appreciated, you guys have been MORE than helpful, so.

thanks

 

As far as liquid measurments, I usually use 1ml of liquid per 1mg, but you can use less liquid than that, I think. I just use that much liquid because it's easier to measure. lol

For example, if I get 250mg of 2c-e, then I dump the entire 250mg into 250ml of distilled water at one time and keep it in the fridge, then if I wanna take 50mg of 2c-e, I just measure out 50ml of water and drink it.

 

cool. so nothing else has to be done to it, just dump it in the water, stir it up a bit/let it dissolve, and leave it be? also, is it *necessary it be refrigerated once it's added into liquid? the people i'm living with at the time's views are different enough to where an unexplained container of psychedelics in the fridge would be, erm.. a bad idea to be sure.

and finally... say that the samples get here before the scale, do you know if this particular vendor's measurements are pretty much always spot on, or are they sometimes off enough that i should wait? (ie would it be safe to just add the 100mg of whatever straight into 100ml of water without weighing at all?)

obviously, i'm aware that not weighing at all is never advisable, but just figured i'd ask anyway, heh

 

I don't guess it has to be refrigerated, but I always refrigerate it.

Honestly, I've never had a scale to measure my orders from the vendor, so I can't confirm that they are the exact amount they're supposed to be. If you'd like to be 100% sure, then I'd wait for the scale.

 

cool, thanks Top. I appreciate the help bro.

 

i believe i have recently stumbled upon this vendor through my almost month long search for something legit.

i believe it is the same source listed here, as what was said about the -c and -d having to be ordered separate is the same as listed on what i have found. but this is my first time actually placing an order and i want to make sure before i send money.

i don't know the protocall for even hinting at it, and i'm REALLY not trying to fuck up a good thing by throwing in little hints in a public post that would give anybody a for sure idea of what i am talking about.

anybody that either orders from this vendor, or at least knows for sure what is being talked about here, would you please pm me (I am most certainly NOT asking YOU to tell me the name of the site as i know i dont post in this area of the forums and you dont know me) but if you would be willing to pm me and let me tell you if what i have found is what is being talked about, or is at least legit or not it would be greatly appreciated.

also just tell me in the pm if its better if i just send you back some cryptic shit that you would be able to confirm or deny my being at the right website or if it is okay if i just use the actual url. again, i'm not really sure how anybody feels about loose lips even in a pm


thank you!

 

No problem man

 

thank you VERY much tns!!!!


words cannot express how thankful i am for the help of somebody who knows what cannot be spoken

 

lol. i wouldn't mind doing the same thing, braindecay, but it'll have to wait for me it looks like becuz I can't send pm's as a new member?? hmm, i'm assuming that I can't receive them either...

i guess i'll just probably take the risk, but surely the odds of there being a scam site with the same 2 chems excluded from a 4-sample pack (for $100, on the page i'm looking at.. heh) has to be absolutely miniscule, right? my broke ass is too poor atm to take even a small chance, but it's good to at least have some encouraging info

if it turns out to be ok i'd like a nice mix , and since there are only 6 total chems left out of the list after excluding c & d, that means that one would be able to try all but 2, so i'm currently going to conduct some more research and a little more material about those 6 to try and decide which 2 to leave off the list. i hardly know anything about the 4-aco's so that gives me somewhere to start.

thanks again to everyone who answered and provided answers/opinions in this thread...i am very impressed with hipforums based on my first experience here. next round's on me guys

peace for now

 

zer0.....do some research into 4-AcO-DMT. I haven't tried it, but based on what everyone says about it, it's one of the best RC's you can find.

 

yeah, that's actually the one i'm skirting over some threads/google for right now. hadn't heard too much about it until recently so i'm just gonna put together a little folder for myself with some basics, etc

 

yea there is only one 4-aco chem, 4acodmt
that and the two 4-ho chems are somewhat similar to psilocin or 4-ho-dmt


about liquid measurement
if you have access to a 0.01 g scale it would be best to weigh the initial amount to make sure you have roughly 100 mg, or 250 mg, etc.
and if you aren't going to refrigerate the solution, it might be best to weigh out smaller amounts (50 mg?) and dissolve them separately.
i don't know about the stability of 2cx in liquid at room temp, but in powder form they are pretty stable
i keep mine dry and in the fridge just to be safe

be sure to shake your liquid solution before dosing

if i were to get the sample pack i'd get 4-aco-dmt, 4-ho-mipt, and i guess 2ci and 2ce. stimulants (mdpv) aren't my thing. i steer clear of the 2ctx series b/c they scare me. and i'd rather try 2cd and/or 2cc than 2ci, but they can't be in the pack.
2ce i already know i like, but might not be what SWIY is looking for

 

As a general rule, the chems are more stable in powder form than dissolved in liquid.

 

My RC's always maintain hella potency when I dissolve them in water, but I guess that's because I put them in the fridge. lol I wasn't sure about room-temp, so I never took the chance.

 

yeah, re: the scale/liquid dosing: well i was able to order a scale earlier today that weighs in milligrams for wayyy less than i thought ($40!? i thought they were all gonna be like 3 bills or something...) so liquid dosing probably won't be an issue unless the chems get here first, which (for some reason) i doubt.even then, i would probably just wait as i don't have access to a digi right now since i broke my last and don't really know anyone who's got one...and i doubt i'd be very receptive to just 'trusting' an online source so far as to just assume that my pkg was exactly 100mg as advertised to the point of dissolving the whole thing.

here's something that i just thought of; i would assume it's generally considered bad practice and not generally advisable to anyone, but hey. for the less dose-sensitive rc's what is the problem with eyeballing? i mean, ok.. something like 5MEO AMT? uhh. fuck no. a couple mg's this way or that could be the difference between one of the better experienes you've had and the padded rooms? no way. but what about with something where you tend to dose higher anyway? i would think you'd be able to do an estimation FAIRlY accurately by splitting it in half a couple times, right? anyway.. i know eyeballing is just asking for trouble but was just curious if that was more prevalent an association with the ones more active at lower doses, or strict among all RC.

totally off topic here, but can anyone verify how many posts you have to have before you get full member privileges like pm etc? i've now seen people say: 30, 100, and "it varies"

i'm sure it's in the rules SOMEwhere but i didn't see it just now.. hehe

oh, and @porkstock - thanks for reminding me a of question i had earlier but forgot to post in this thread. you said the 2ct's scare you - why is that? anyone else also have any experiences/general information with the 2c-x's that they'd like to share as far as directly stacking up with their counterparts (in particular 2ct7)??? levels of euphoria vs. stimulant propertes, mindfuck vs mental/emotional elevation, duration from drop back to baseline, "hangover'', body load?


i understand that all this information is readily available by reading drug wikis and going through numerous TR's but also thought it would be nice to have a compilation thread of sorts for others that may pass thru here later to use as a sort of roadsign

well, ladies n gents?

 

I have done 2c-i ,2c-e, and 2c-t-7 and i would have to say that 2c-t-7 is my favorite.
With 2c-e i throw up every time, 2c-i sometimes, and 2c-t-7 never. Also the visuals (which I really like) are way more intense with 2c-t-7 and the mind fuck (which I don't like) is less than with 2c-e.
2c-i is like diet 2c-e for me. Almost the same feeling just not as intense. The duration of the trip is about the same for all of them 6 to 8 hours although with 2c-e i have a slight speedy feeling and I have trouble sleeping after it.
I think that about covers it....maybe?

 

try some 2c-i. I'm pretty sure you'll love it. It has nice visuals but your thought processes don't become "too" fucked up. I personally love 2c-i, especially when i'm in the mood to trip but i'm somewhere like a club where I don't wanna go totally insane lol. The visuals are unique and consist of colors and geometric patterns. In high doses it can get very intense visually and mentally.

If you want a heavy trip try some 2c-p. This shit is no joke though. If you don't respect it, it can and will kick your ass! Don't do too much of this shit.

 

zero point, -t7 scares me simply b/c people have died from it. i think it's only been two people, from snorting 35 mg or higher, and one of them combining with other drugs. so the risk is low, but it's there. i dose all of my 2cx orally too.
i've READ that -t7 has pretty bad nausea when taken orally, but that the visuals are awesome.

and your question about eyeballing. it is not recommended at all, but like you said, for chems that you are dosing 25 mg or so, you could probably eyeball it pretty accurately from 100 mg. so maybe for 2cd, 2cc, or the beta ketones, you could get away with eyeballing it.
but that's even less accurate than trusting that the vendor gave you the correct amount, and doing liquid measurement.
i like to know exactly how much i'm taking though. that's one of the advantages of 2ce vs LSD for example. i can scale out 12 mg or 17.5 mg of 2ce. but i have to settle for taking one or two hits of LSD - meaning i can't accurately measure it

 

I share your thoughts on 2c-t-7.

but i love eyeballing small doses of 2c-c!