HipF n00b here; what 2c u recommend???

Hey all. New user coming over from another forum after gettin fed up with em.. Doing a little research for months now, SWIM's bout to run back down memory lane and is looking for a couple comparisons/ some advice from some RC vets so he can get the most from his experience.

He's only taken 5-MeO-DipT and 5-MeO-AMT in the past, twice for the former and once for the latter (which he was given an obviously eyeballed dose from someone he trusted and probably very nearly OD'ed on that fuckover; though it was the most powerful trip of his life and life changing, he shit and vomited for about 4 hrs straight). he has however had plenty of rendezvous wit san P, mushies, lsd/a, etc.

This was a while back when RCs were easier to get, he just got em from a friend who ordered them with NO problem. Anyway, he's interested in some of the 2c's.

he's looking for something with sort of a higher euphoric tendency and doesn't mind if there's not quite so heavy visuals (he loves em, but his unique circumstance in this instance requires he be able to maintain around others. don't ask). for this reason he also wants one that is less of a mindfuck and smoother, easier to handle in such a situation. the ideal would be high euphoria and emotional expansion etc, mid-level OEV and CEV, and minimal "total brainbend mindfuck factor" as a friend of mine once said.

anyway. given the relatively large list of chems and swim's relative inexperience w. RCs, what would some of yall recommed for him?

 

2C-I and 2C-C, 2C-C being more euphoric and more brains dumbing, 2C-I being very speedy and more visual.

 

Great, thanks. This is sort of what he was leaning towards, as a matter of fact (2C-I in particuclar). For the -C, by brain dumbing, that would correlate to a marked inability compared to the -I to maintain a semblance of normalcy around others if it were necessary?

Also, forgot to add in the original post, the duration of the effects are also a concern as it would be optimal to be able to return to baseline (or at least close) by maybe +6:00. Would these accomplish that?

This first experience or 2 will happen solo style, but because of where he'll be staying the maintaining of one's composure will be paramount. Thanks for the feedback; he is absolutely certain he can handle it, but wanted a couple opinionz.

-ins

 

2C-C you can maintain your composure on for sure. I ordered 250mg recently, and I tripped on ~28-30 mg at a party the other day and nobody had a clue I was on it. It was great.

 

You'll be back to normal by +6:00 on 2c-c easily. With 2c-I you might still have a little "funk" left in you, pupils will probably still be a bit dilated but I think you'd be able to function without too much hassle. With 2c-c you could function while peaking though, heh.

 

it sounds like you want one of the milder 2cxs. that would mean 2cd, 2cc, 2cb, maybe 2ci. but since i've only tried 2ce and 2cb, i can personally recommend 2cb for what you're looking for. some emotional and euphoric effects (not very intense though), light on the visuals, light on the "mindfuck," ability to act somewhat sober, and shorter duration.
2cc and 2cd sound like they fit the description too though.
and maybe 2ci, but from reading about all of them, it seems a little more intense and speedy.

 

yeah 2cc is really nice, nice visuals but an intense trip like 2ce. however IMO 2cc only really shines when snorted, since the doses are so high. i hear 2cd is supposed to be really nice too.

 

i don't have too much experience with 2c's so that's may be why I think this, but from your description it almost sounds like you are looking for beta ketones rather than 2c's/phens. The only beta ketone I've done is methylone and I can control myself enough to converse with people and all but I could not drive. there isn't much for hallucination except some tracers at high doses, and it definately gives more euphoria than 15 mg 2ci(the o ly 2c i've tried besides a very mild dose of t2--or bunk t2). There are more BK's than methylone that's the only one I have personal experience with though, so they may be something of interest to you.

 

Uhhh... 2c-e for now and forever
Great for starters imo

 

i wouldn't call 2c-c dumbing...i would call it "goofy and childlike" if anything.

but C is really mild, shorter acting, but in high doses REALLY intense!

2c-I is moderately speedy but REALLY fun...people i know have taken it and thought it was MDA

2c-e is the deepest, and for me hardly euphoric...but it's the heaviest of the 3 listed here.

if you can get 2c-b i'd recommend it as it's one of the most fun things i've ever taken.

 

2C-E seems to be 50/50 for me when it comes to euphoria or gut wrenching cramps (ughhghg) , but I'm going to be trying dramamine/diphenhydramine AND ginger when I get my next batch.. ain't fuckin messin around lol

 

I agree with Shermin here. I really don't think I would call 2c-c "brain-dumbing." I think that as he said it makes your brain more child-like, and to me that is more profound than any drug that leaves you with the same adult mindset. But I suppose it may feel different to others than it does to me.

Of the 2-c's I have only taken 2c-c, 2c-e and 2c-i. I certainly enjoyed c the best though it is sort of murder for your nose. I have only tried e once, and had a terrible time. But I think I would like to try it in another sort of environment and see how I like it then. And I really didn't take that much i and didn't really get much of a feel for it, so couldn't say much about it. This probably isn't all that helpful... But good luck finding what you are looking for!

 

2c-e sucks balls. Do 2c-i...

 

2c-e pwns 2c-i, imo.

 

I knew you were going to say that. You are the reason I even tried 2c-e in the first place. Its not a good RC to me. Prob the worst one I have tried.

But thats just our opinions.

 

Did you try it when you were overseas or when you got back?

And yeah....opinion. lol In my experience, 2c-e and 2c-i are almost identical in every aspect, aside from the fact that 2c-e is far more visual.

 

2C-E is for people looking for a real psychedelic trip. In other words, some deep mental stuff and not just pretty colors.

If you want a nice body buzz and pretty visuals just stick with 2C-I. If you want to see pretty colors, get a nice body buzz, and get sent down the rabbit hole a bit then go with 2C-E.

 

Hey, I sure appreciate all the quick responses; I think you guys are right in that he's definitely looking for one of the more milder of them. sort of interested in the beta ketones as well, but *completely unfamiliar with them and haven't done anything but some sporadic reading here and there about them. If anyone has any recommendations that they think fit what he's looking for but just happen to not be a 2c, please don't hesitate to drop some advice also.

my friend was sort of leaning towards 2c-i like he said, and will probably stick with that or perhaps C, but also the place he was likely going to go through (though they dont have 2cb, a disappointment to him), they do offer a sample pack of 4x100mg of different ones (c, d, e, i, t7, a couple 4aco's, 4hoDMT, and mdpv) so it looks like as soon as he can verify that he's not gonna just send his money off to some jackass (which he's been trying to find out for like a month already.. lol) he'll probably get to do some research on his own to find which suits him best. one can only hope, i guess... hehe

how do the 4-x's compare to the 2's; major differences etc??

 

If you'll read more closely, the place you're talking about offers a sample pack on everything, EXCLUDING 2c-C and 2c-D, so if you want the sample pack, but also want the 2c-C, you will have to get the 2c-C separate from the sample pack.

 

and don't worry your not going to get ripped off by the vendor you mentioned. a lot of use use him too

edit:
some general differences in 4 subs and 2c's i could think of off the top of my head:

4 sub's - shorter duration, kick in quicker,&more of a mind fuck

2c's - vary greatly in effects, and can be more visual

sorry for lack of comparison but i don't have too much experience with 2c's but have read about most