Here are the Man-Haters

Unfortunately, for everyone, they exist:

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.

"To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
-- Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." -- Andrea Dworkin

What was the point in me posting this?

Well, first of all, I chose those three quotes from a long, long list because most of those obviously hateful words came from those same three women. Second of all, since accusations of man-hating fly all over the place here, I wanted to show you all what real man-hating is. None of that goes on in this forum that I have seen. THAT up there is extremist behavior and you know what? It's NOT OKAY.

Look, patriarchy is a real system and it affects everyone in a negative way. But this? This is what needs to change first - the attitudes of women. If women are running around preaching this trash, how in the hell is feminism, gender equality, or whatever you want to call it, ever going to be taken seriously? So, what should feminists be doing? We change the attitudes of women like these and women on the other extreme first. Otherwise, it's pointless. We all need to be on the same page. It's truly shameful to see women talking this way. It really is - at least for me. Especially since there are men who identify as feminists.

Okay, so no more accusations of man-hating here, please. I don't think any woman here has said words like that and if she has, she's got it all wrong.

 

I don't think anyone takes Solanas seriously, at least not since she tried to shoot Andy Warhol. Andrea Dworkin is beyond help.

 

I honestly do not know who any of those women are and I really don't think I want to. It's just like you said - "beyond help."

 

Heh, I have heard of this Scum Manifesto. She wanted to create like an all women planet or something like that. Valerie Solanas is crazy.

Nice post though, I know I am a bloke and everything, but I agree with it. Feminism can be a great thing, I think it's the extremists that give it a piss poor name. Most people are bigots to the idea of simply an equal world because of such futile ideals.

But yes, I for one appreciate your objectiveness.

 

What these women are talking about isn't feminism - it's a psychotic mental disorder. The ability to shrivel up the male anatomy with a piercing glare is NOT feminism! It's always the damned extremist that fuck shit up. Men, as in men like you and other men walking around on the planet, are NOT the problem. They've got it all wrong. I do think Gloria Steinem can be borderline man-hating. I don't always agree with what she says. That last quote sounds like it came from a serial killer. There are bad people in every walk of life, unfortunately.

 

As I have said numerous times, men who are threatened by feminism and choose to draw similarities between it and patriarchy, are insecure and have tiny penises.

/discussion

 

I would at times become the enemy of my own wife as she would lapse into a militancy that reflected her own struggle with the slavery of patriarchy. At other times she could recognize the sincerity of my respect for her. It was like watching someone become possessed.

 

Exactly, and this totally applies to other areas as well... extremists give everybody else a bad name. No one should associate an extremist view with the general view.

This is a great thread... I can't believe some of the things that people say! It must be so hard to have that much hate in your life.

 

I understand what everyone is saying here, however, how many times have you heard a man say something extremely derogatory and really mean it about a woman, just because he thinks he has that right? I know I have many many times..

These comments may be a bit "extreme" but women need to be passionate if we are going to ever be seen as equals.

These women may be seen as "man-haters" but look at why they are. I also have come across many men in my life that hate women and think they are the dirt beneath there shoes. Not because there has been much persecution toward them by women like men have done, but simply because they are women and they believe that we are nothing more than that, dirt.

So I look at these passionate women who may have ideas that will probably not happen, or seem obsurd to others, but there is a reason behind it unlike the hate that I have felt by men who feel they are simply superior by birth.

If a man can't handle a woman who is passionate about making a better life for herself, without being persecuted for her gender, or is intimidated of her because of it then he does not deserve her as a loving companion.

 

That's bullshit. You can't blame an entire gender for the actions of some of its members. Men talking that way about women is equally wrong, but you don't fight senseless hatred with more senseless hatred. The women quoted here are straight up crazy, and you're crazy for defending them.

 

WOOOOWWWW. Good one! I never defended what they are saying, I simply said that there are MAJOR reasons for women to be passionate when it comes to gender equality. Why don't you try to have a serious discussion and bring up positions on why you think that instead of being immature about it, since all I was doing was offering a different view point on the subject.

 

Okay, did you not understand those quotes? Ever read the SCUM manifesto? Know what that is? That is the desire to create an all-female race by killing off all males - except for "cooperative" males. That, my friend, is genocide! That places this woman in the same camp as Adolf Hitler. So, you're right. There is a reason for all this and it's called a mental disorder. Women are not immune from having the same psychosis nonsense that would also affect a man. There are woman-haters. No doubt about that but they are just as nutty as the man-haters.

 

I know thats why I said I understand what everyone is saying in my first post (meaning I agree) and I also said that the things these women are talking about will never happen (meaning I disagree with them).

I mean obviously I agree that these quotes are soooo far out there its ridiculous, I just have a hard time even taking them seriously.

I was just making more of a generalization about being passionate in my first post, not defending radicalism.

 

But that's not passion about gender equality, it is, as I said, senseless hate. I am trying to have a serious discussion. I asked you why you were defending these people and you dodged the question. Now you claim you weren't defending them at all.

 

Im a man, women are the superior gender yet somehow men have the upper hand.

Men are just animals with the ability to speak.

Im sure future generations of women would thank you for killing all the men...oh wait...

I know were stupid, but women need us, and that will never change.

 

yess women should stand their ground, but zorba the grape is completly right. im too lazy to argue much further, but im pretty sure we all agree that these quotes are down right rediculous, and there are reasons for everything, but the blame is on the mentalities, not gender obviously.

 

The only way I was defending them is by saying that it may not be completely senseless hate. (not saying that hating a group of people is ok by any means, even if there is a reason) Thats why I brought up examples as to why they might hate men, in my first post.

I don't agree with these people at all, I was just bringing in a different perspective or atleast trying to understand why they might feel so strongly.

 

I get what you are saying.

 

you cant spell social darwinism without "win"

 

I'm liberal on the conversation, but that's bollocks. I can't be bothered to right much, but Zobra is right.

Women = Crime of passion
Men = Treat women like dirt for no reason

Doesn't swing with me. These feminists should fuck off, and then everybody can get along again. We all love each other really.