Dad wants to me join the military..

When I was 18, I almost joined the Navy because of high unemployment in my area and lots of my father's friends telling me how much they wanted to serve. Then I remembered that I'm a pacifist and that if there was nobody willing to fight, then there would be no fighting.

As honourable as their intentions are, any member of the armed forces are part of the problem, not the solution.

 

u dont make any sense u assume that i care who the real 'perpetrators' are, and ur asking why is joining the military not ok but i never said that u dumbass
overall i hope u stop posting the things ur saying are really sketchy

 

Part of the military is bombing innocents who happen to be standing near the "real culprits".
The military has admitting to blowing up at least two weddings that ... well "oops" is the shortest explaination.

The military expects you to be a "real man" and not cut your throat when you discover that your finger pulled the trigger than killed an innocent kid.

 

dont do it----the military as a career for the kids? my neice is in the navy she ws in afganistan---navy corp suports the marines--she saw so much bad shit they brought her back early and you cant even talk to her about it---but she worked in medical so she saw the worst injuries----my nephew is in ROTC going to the air force and my daughters boyfriend is already signed up in Marines and not out of high school when he graduates he goes to boot camp---sigh-- when i grow up im going to war --sigh

 

:cheers2:

 

Our troops could use plane tickets home!

 

Not just now. Innocent people have been suffering from way before 2001, I see no reason to add to the suffering.

 

Fuck the military. I support some of the troops(Some people do some fucked up war shit) but the true soldiers I respect.

But not for me. Maybe I'm a pussy but I couldn't handle that line of work.

 

Actualy, the data indicates that the percentage of the population that enlists doesn't vary with income. i.e. those who (parents) make a lot of money are just as likely to enlist as those whose parents don't. The data actualy shows an increase in the enlistment percentage as income rises. (Rich kids are more likely to enlist than poor kids.)

http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/em987.cfm

 

Have you looked at the data?

Help the troops, bring them home!

 

the military. been there and did that (boot camp, military school and, rotc.)
got kicked out of all three.
they were cruel as all goddamn mother fucking hell and heaven trying to break me down and, build me up into what they wanted.
they all failed at that.
they did give one hell of alot of psychological scares though.

even as a little kid, i was very, very, very self-directed and self-discipline. my inborn nature is inner-directed.
that is why they could not break me.

some people are just not military material (inner-directed people.)
if you are a very outer-directed person then, you might be military material.
the only thing i can say on this matter is... fuck your dad and anyone else, who tries to tell what to do or, how to live your life.
your inner signals are telling you not to go into the military.
trust yourself in this matter!
your old man may turn into one hell of an asshole, if you tell him you don't want to go into the military.
don't let anyone, twist your arm into doing what is aganist your own self-interest!
good luck to you mate... i'm pulling for you!

 

I've never heard of an Al Queda quoting data from the Heritage foundation.

If you want to trade aspersions, see if "jingoist" fits. That title doesn't conflict with willful ignorance.
If that doesn't fit, perhaps "Chicken Hawk".

 

Ok here it goes

Im in the United States Marine Corps and in high school i was in the JROTC

The military isnt a horrible thing, just like a regluar job it has its us and downs

Just because your in the military doesnt mean you will see combat. If you have to join the National Guard or the Reserves. Reserves work one weekend a month and 2 weeks during the summer.

College ROTC is ok. When you get outta bootcamp you will automatically be a 2nd Lieutenant, so theres more money for being an officer! If you go active duty you will work like everyday(still doesnt mean you will be in combat, depends on your job).

The military pays for your college, plus you can get pretty much any job from the military that you could outside of the military. Except for a porn star...i dont know if your interested in that but for some reason the Military wont cover it

In the end it is your decision, if you tell a recruiter you dont want to join or join yet, he wont let you. If you dont give your consent it wont happen.

Now im not saying this just cuz im in the military, but you learn valuable things, not just killing. You learn self respect, Honor, Commitment, and pride in everything you have.

The military isnt for everyone. You can be sucessful in or out of the military.

Its all up to you, if you have ANY and i mean ANY questions about any branch or the military in general email me at juggalo76698@yahoo.com

 

My dad wanted me to also, I was like Fok Dat.
Im not a pussy but wow what a waste of life.

 

your 18 dude, lol... you dont have to put up with his shit.

 

I don't have time to read all of the responses, but I just got out after serving 4 years in the Army.

I was in public affairs. My job was a broadcast journalist and also a public relations/media relations guy. I spent fifteen months in Baghdad, deployed as a part of the five surge brigades we sent over there. After that I spent 8 months on Honduras.

I LOVED the military, but I am glad I am out. I got so much out of my time in there:

1) Financial and medical stability. I got a $14000 bonus when I joined. Paycheck every two weeks. No matter what. Whenever I was sick, got hurt, etc., just go to the doctor. It's free and it's good medical care.

2) Free PRK surgery. Basically a better version of LASIK.

3) A lot of travel: Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar. Even Iraq wasn't bad. I got to go out in sector all the time on missions. Met Iraqis, went into their homes, ate food, went to markets, into churches, etc. A great experience and I got a really good idea for what life in Baghdad was like (not just during war, but before the war). Experienced a culture not many people get to. Yeah, I saw combat action and the things that go with that. But, all in all, it was worth it and I wouldn't change anything about it all. I then went to Honduras, which was the best time of my entire life. Better than college. It was awesome. ALso checked out Costa Rica and El Salvador.

4) Money to pay for graduate school. Bottom line: they're paying my tuition directly to the school and I'm getting about $2000 a month tax free for living expenses. On top of that, $1000 a year book stipend.

5) Great job experience. I had a GREAT job in the military which directly correlates to good jobs in the civilian sector: broadcast journalism and public relations. Military experience really looks good on a resume, and military experience plus training and experience in a good field is a really big plus. Throw on top of that a Master's degree which I don't have to pay for, and the 4 years was an investment in my future that couldn't be beaten.

6) Veteran's benefits. TOO MANY TO LIST. The VA benefits are great and many. A couple of highlights: VA Loan. A no money down loan, guaranteed by the government. Absolutely one of the best loans available on the market. Also, Veteran's Preference, which gives you a HUGE leg up if you want to apply for a government civilian position...and the government is so big that anything, literally anything you want to do in life you can do working for the government.

7) 30 days of paid leave a year. Countless, and I mean countless 4 day weekends. Every 3 day weekend got turned into a 4-day. Also a lot of days where nothing was going on, so we just check out early. Every Friday I was off an hour early.

I can go on and on. There are A TON of GREAT things about the military, and that's whether you make it a career or just do a short stint and get out. A lot of the people that say you'll definitely end up on combat just don't know. I'm not calling anyone out in particular, but I doubt that everyone that's said that has served in the military. Maybe some have...but probably not all of them. It depends on your job, the service you're in, and where you go out of training. Of course, it's possible you can go. But look...most people that go to Iraq/Afghanistan are not out there on missions pounding the groudn every day going on missions. I wasn't infantry and I went outside the wire probably more than any non-infantry/tank/cavalry type jobs. And it was fine...and it was fun.

But, all the great really does come with a price. You probably won't get to choose your first assignment and where you go. It's basically a lottery. You could get a great assignment, like Germany, Japan, or Korea, or something that you're not really interested in. You can end up working a lot of crazy hours and long days. And that's just something you have to understand...but you make up that time with all the 4-day weekends, the half-days (for two weeks at Christmas and New Years you pretty much only work half days), leaving early on Fridays, the 30 days of paid leave, etc. What you need to understand is that duty can be bad and it can suck. But duty can be great and be REALLY REALLY GREAT and you won't even fathom how you are getting paid to do what you're doing and that it is really a job. They key is to understand that you'll get both ends of that, accept that, and find the happy middle...which is really easy.

Also, you'll be a part of a family and something bigger than yourself. It sounds cheesy and corny. I know. But they are all your brothers. And they all have your back and will always look out for what's best for you. It's a great feeling and you'll never have anything like that on the outside.

The Air Force or Coast Guard would be your best bets. You'll travel a lot more with the AF, and POSSIBLY deploy. But, even if you deploy with the AF it's not necessarily to Iraq or Afghanistan. They deploy to a lot of cool places all over the world. And also, unless you're a cop in the AF, odds are pretty good that if you go to Iraq/Afghanistan you won't be in direct combat. Just have to worry about an occasional mortar or rocket round coming in.

The military isn't as drastic and crazy as a lot of people make it out to be. A lot of good and great things come with it. There's a little bit of a price...but the benefits, not just after but while you're in FAR OUTWEIGH any negatives. Just go in with an open mind and you'll be good to go. You'll do things you never though you would and come out on the other end much better for having been in.

And hey...you never have to worry about what to wear to work!

If you have any questions at all, just PM me...I'll answer as best and honestly as I can.

 

Wow. I just don't know what to say to this.

It is complete and utter BS. I really hope you enjoy your freedoms which are brought to you by the people that serve...while you underhandedly and anonymously denigrate the entire profession.

 

hey fuck you man. the army aint for everyone. and dont give me some bullshit like, how can you respect a soldier? good for you. you served your country. but people dont have to treat you better.

 

yea i know people that went to the marines and lots of people all of a sudden respect them its pretty sketchy its not like our army is doing anything respectable at the moment

and people are like hes putting his life on the line talking about this one kid i know well and in reality im sure he just wanted to go shoot machine guns and throw grenades and other rambo shit and he could care less about how fucked up the war is

basically it would have been respectable if you were in world war II but not iraq or afghanistan

 

join and get a free college education, and if you go to war, run far far away