Civilization

Discussion in 'Ask The Old Hippies' started by Lois, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. Lois

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    Old hippies understand such things?
    Civilization.

    Few of us realise that civilization is a grand building rising up from the lowest worlds to the highest ones, to God. Most of us, being small screws of civilization, don’t take the trouble about trying to imagine the mightiness of this building, not to mention the studying of what civilization is and how it is controled. They are the passive elements of civilization and are able only to carry out some functions within the civilization, functions which they have chosen for themselves. The active members of civilization trouble to influence the civilization gradually. By cost of their hard efforts, they escape from the obedience and are no longer the small screws of civilization. They are those, who realized what motive power is inside this civilization, they are those who overcame these powers and got rid of them. The civilization consists in great number of various ideas and various energies circulating among these ideas. All this combines into rich in energy information structures with a number of systems and subsystems. The one who knows what the civilization is and how it is controled can provide an informational impact on one of its systems and consequently influence the whole civilization, as all the ideas are interrelated. The main idea here is to see what things are to be considered important and determinant, and what are of secondary importance. The modern civilization has been being created since the times of Adam and Eva. It was constantly changing and new ideas appeared. When the Lord God drowned all the living beings, except for those which were taken to the Noah’s Ark, it was the loss of civilization but not a complete loss, because the main informational structure was based on Noah’s family. Nevetheless at that time there were great energetic cataclysms. The whole building of civilization was breaking down. Calling this a horror is to say nothing about it. Noah's family knew that it was a nightmare and the and they overcame it, feeling in their inside world what the death of civilization is. And obviously modern civilization keep the memory of this nightmare. This very information lies in the deepest layers of soul of every person and if an experienced master who knows the secrets of civilization, touches this chord, he will FEEL completely inhuman FEELINGS.
     
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    Well, I don't quite get the point of this post.

    The Noah's Ark and Adam & Eve myth almost sounds like we should believe that 12-21-2012 is really gonna be the end of civilization again?

    I think it is a good fiction that makes an interesting movie.
     
  3. Lois

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    I do not think 12-21-2012 something happen. And about the movie is a good idea. For me, Adam and Eve is not a myth but a reality!
     
  4. Trigcove

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    If history is any kind of teacher at all, we can probably look forward to becoming extinct somewhere in the future.

    Civilization is just an artificial order that supposedly advanced people try to carve out of the wild. Unfortunately, there is no handbook for carving out civilizations, so we do it by trial and error. For every success, there are thousands of errors, but we gradually improve the process to the point where the most sucessful get to lead lives of relative comfort. Unfortunately, it's still very much a wild world, which means that, while some are eating, some are being eaten. This is a basic law of nature that civilization does not seem able to overrule.

    Down through the ages, the largest predators ruled at the top of the food chain. There's really not that much difference between then and now, except we don't kill with our bare hands and teeth, anymore.

    Adam and Eve were booted from The Garden, because they disobeyed God and learned about Good and Evil. Before that, there was no good and evil to be found in man. He was as the animals - simply what God made him. So, they went out into the world and multiplied, until they covered the world, but there was evil, now. More and more of humanity became evil, while less and less of it was good.
    Then, God killed the whole world, except for a few humans and a bunch of wildlife, because everyone and everything else was evil. But before long "evil" worked it's way in, again. It would seem that you can't put the genie back in the bottle, once he's out.

    For what purpose did God wipe out the whole world, if it was just going to happen again?

    Free will, I guess. We all get to decide what we're going to believe and how we're going to act. If we decide to act like a bunch of idjits, then we're probably going to get wiped out again. If you don't want to believe that there is a God who will do it, then you can most likely believe that we'll do it to ourselves.

    Extinction is as natural as the changing of the seasons, but over a longer period of time. Of course, modern man is doing everything much faster, these days.
     
  5. Lois

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    Trigcove,
    So you're saying that we should move to the jungle and jumping on the trees, like macaques?
     
  6. Trigcove

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    No, I'm saying that we cannot escape the laws of nature and because of that we're really not much more "civilized" than we were 25000 years ago. We just have more technology.
     
  7. Lois

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    The problem is that people used to be more educated.
     
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    Like 1963? :cool:
     
  9. Lois

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    3500 years ago
     
  10. thedope

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    In civilized terms we need society but culture is a whole other thing. It is communication that edifies.
     
  11. Trigcove

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    wait...
    People were more educated 3500 years ago?

    That must have been back when the schools were open 8 days a week.
     
  12. Lois

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    They just had great ability and they have been taught more complicated things.
     
  13. Trigcove

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    Really?
    Explain, please.
     
  14. zencoyote

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    I too would like to see a logical explanation of that one!

    As far as the original post goes...

    ...your post has no merit. Basing an argument merely on that supposition called "belief"
    i.e. god, Adam and Eve, Noah, etc. makes little sense. Believe as you will, that's your right, but it shows me a lack of forethought and real education.

    JMHO...

    Zen
     
  15. Lois

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    In ancient Egypt, even children could do things materialize.
     
  16. Lois

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    I personally saw Eve through clairvoyance.
     
  17. Trigcove

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    I.... see...
    Your full name isn't Lois Cayce, is it?

    I once saw a talking cup of coffee, although I'm pretty sure now that the coffee didn't actually speak.
    It was probably more of a telepathy thing... "Aaaaaaiiiiiieeeee... don't drink me! Don't drink ME!"
    I felt bad, because I did drink the coffee - but in the morning everything was okay again.

    Get a good night's sleep, Lois. Everything will be better in the morning.
     
  18. Lois

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    I also love jokes
     
  19. zencoyote

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    You sentence makes no sense. No logical explanation and shows the lack of education that I wrote of.

    That is absolute bullshit. I should know. Unfortunately for you, I'm a Master Intuitive.
    Former protege of Tara Heller and Carol Ristitch. The mantle of Master was passed on to me when Tara retired.
    Your "clairvoyance" is more like fantasy...sorry.

    That's good because this thread is a joke!

    Zen
     
  20. Lois

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    Similarly, I assume this is about you. I have 2 higher education. The information I have given is taken from the Kabbalah.
    And who are they?
    I have proof. And what evidence do you have?
     

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