Psychedelic art without psychedelics

our imaginations are limitless! psychedelic artists don't necessarily need to have tripped. though i do find it sad that they supposedly and boldly condemn drugs. whatever.

or maybe bill hicks is right about artists and musicians, its all about drugs

but honestly does it matter as long as its beautiful?

 

That's true ...

I was mostly thinking about people that listen psychedelic music and say they would never do drugs. They don't see the point...... Whats the point of listening psychedelic music without using psychedelics ... Some people find that kind of music boring and not good - yeah cuz they didn't hear it in right state of mind...

 

The point is that some psychedelic music sounds good even if you've never done drugs.

 

conversely, can a person who has taken psychedelic drugs make un-psychedelic art?

or after you've done it, does all of your art become psychedelic?

 

Art can be defined by the artists intention, and by the interpretation depending on your perspective. If a piece of art is intended to be "psychedelic" and it is perceived to be psychedelic then it is. If it is not intended to be psychedelic and not perceived as being psychedelic then it is not. One calling oneself a psychedelic artist can make non-psychedelic art and it wouldnt be psychedelic art.

 

The term "Psychedelic", as it is applied to art or music is simply a marketing tool.
It implies a target audience. It is, and has always been, just a way to capitalize on psychedelic culture.
It's pop art, that is all.

ZW

 

my dad is a hardcore mormon yet he loves psychedelic music..

and i think psychedelic art could just as easily be called surreal art

 

I agree. I think that all art has the potential of being enhanced by psychedelic compounds, not just "psychedelic art"

regardless of state of mind, you can stare at a piece and find infinite meaning or no meaning at all...

another category of art called "op art" is a zone that psychedelic art treads in, focusing on the visual trickery of color and pattern

 

I think that we can always call art that specifically attempts to replicate psychedelic hallucinations psychedelic art, and it wouldnt be a marketing tool. Merely a description. Surreal art shouldnt be confused with authentic psychedelic artwork but it does a lot and it does piggy back on the psychedelic label.

 

Surrealist art, not to be confused with authentic psychadelic art...

 

Dali

 

Ooer! Very nice.

 

Yep, Dali was just one of those naturally trippy dudes, I think.
He was totally into the inner mind and all it's natural trippyness...way before ethnogens were popular.
Pretty sure his drug of choice was alcohol...

 

but what isnt psychedelic about surrealism?

 

Exactly.

 

Telling somebody that they have to take drugs to be capable of making a certain type of art is rubbish.

Schizophrenic people are more or less tripping 24/7. They didn't take any drugs whatsoever.

Furthermore, you can have psychedelic experiences without taking drugs. Somebody mentioned dreams.

More importantly, some people have these things called "imaginations." Ever heard of those? They can imagine a scenario without having actually literally experienced it.

You are too attached to the drugs. The drugs can inspire art but they do not make the art.

 

Psychedelic art is based off of psychedelic hallucinations and the psychedelic experience. If you havent done psychedelics, you havent had psychedelic hallucinations. If you havent had psychedelic hallucinations you cant draw psychedelic hallucinations from first-hand, authentic experience. All you can do is mimic other psychedelic artists.

Youre thinking of surrealist art. Psychedelic art is a window specifically to the psychedelic experience. Zombiewolf pointed out earlier that a lot of surrealist art tries to take a free ride to market on the psychedelic wagon causing confusion.

 

No, this was not what I was pointing out...for fucksake, the Surrealist movement started in the early 1920's!

Not sure where they were for those 40+ yrs before the "Psychedelic wagon" came around for them to jump on... Probably just languishing in art gallerys all around the world, waiting for "Spencers" to be invented...

You tell me how the fuck you're gonna tell if a purported "Psychedelic" artist is really "experienced"?


ZW

 

Because surreal art pre-dated psychedelic drugs is inconsequential to the fact that after the advent of psychedelic drugs and the psychedelic movement a ton of surrealist art got mashed into the psychedelic label.

The answer to your question is intent. Knowing that the artist is an authentic psychedelic artist.

Surrealist art can, however compliment a psychedelic experience and psychedelic art is almost always enjoyed by surrealists.

 

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