Manifesting the Mind, on sale now

Discussion in 'The Psychedelic Experience' started by pr0ne420, May 4, 2009.

  1. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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  2. CrypToka420

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    i been looking for this online. but dont necesailiy wanna buy. not luck yet though
     
  3. dynamickid

    dynamickid Hemp Farmer

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    Maybe if were something that Erowid was involved i would pay, but not BBB
     
  4. goodvibes83

    goodvibes83 Senior Member

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    looks interesting, i enjoyed watching that...id watch it for sure...why not
     
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    did you read Pynchon?
     
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    That last part really got to me...
     
  7. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    anyone else notice how both mckennas, leary, alex grey, ect. all speak with the same cadence? its like their trying so hard to accurately communicate such far out information that they focus on articulating every syllable clearly. i was just watching that trailer and noticed that dennis sounds alot like his brother....then alex started talkin in much the same way....seems like alot of super heady trippers speak in that kind of sterile alien dialect. lol.
     
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    nice observation. i think it's because so many of the ideas being played with are so entangled with many other ideas, and come with so many connotations and misinformation, that in these contexts when one speaks one better think carefully about what one is saying.

    Definetely worth a watch though. A lot of very basic information, obviously tailored to the uninitiated, but still worth sitting through for some nice ideas, which sometimes border on the irrational. I enjoy Dennis Mckenna's comments very much. Alex Grey is an interesting one ;)
     
  9. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    got to you, as in annoyed you/you don't agree?
    me too

    maybe they are burnt out :D
    writer has a good point though. they speak kind of like some professors. abstract ideas require that you choose your words carefully.

    but i don't really agree with what mckenna is saying at the end. that the perceived world you get from substituting DMT for serotonin is just as real or important. well we evolved to have serotonin as the signaling molecule. that is what allowed us to survive. think about if we constantly had DMT flooding our synapses. i don't think that would be good for survival overall :)
    we aren't really on drugs all the time, and we aren't made of drugs. i wish that he would have said chemicals instead of drugs. everything is a chemical. that's a point that a lot of people don't get
     
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    DMT replacing 5HT in our brain would obviously cause maladaptive behaviour, however dennis's point is that we should not be "5HT-centrists", and assume that our Almighty Reality is the only one, when it is absolutely dependant on us running on 5HT.

    drug = chemical which affects consciousness, right? well name a chemical in your body or environment which does not affect your consciousness. many don't directly interact in the sense we normally use, for example H2O. Water is not "psychoactive", and yet I can easily influence your consciousness by influencing H2O levels in your body and in your environment. For example I can make your brain do some very interesting things if I greatly increase the amount of H2O in your environment, so much so that you're drowning. You will definetely be in an altered state of mind from drowning. It's a shitty high, but what's the alternative, DXM? :p
     
  11. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Your posts make me want to get up and dance. Youre a solid dude.
     
  12. Archemetis

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    i just watched the movie in its entirety. it is kind of tailored to the uninitiated as writer says, insofar as it is largely speaking to the dominant western culture as a whole, and what psychedelic integration really means to this paradigm. theres plenty of time spent laying out a solid foundation that builds an argument for the legitimacy of psychedelic explorations, in both a scientific and spiritual context. even going as far as breaking down the language in the beggining of the film to explore what words we are working with in the psychedelic dialect. (i had no idea psychedelic literally means mind manifesting. lol)

    its a good one, lots of heady trippers telling it like it is, and some far out ones hinting at what it may be. we all know how easy it is for "the conversation" to fall off the deep end, but for the most part this film resists that urge and stays fairly grounded. (though i would have liked to see these guys talk about the depths of the deep end on a more personal level...maybe next time around).

    i could have done without hearing the pot vs. alcohol argument again (i understood that one along time ago), and the psychedelics vs. christian eucharist argument. (true our sacrament actually delivers...)
    all in all though it was a great film. somthing to show your mother if she's a conservative skeptic like mine is.
    archemetis gives it two thumbs up.
     
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