Liquid measurement

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by kobilica, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. kobilica

    kobilica Member

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    So who here uses liquid measurement? And how?

    My way:

    I get any alcoholic beverage I can : From clear ethanol to something along 40%...

    Then I get one of these:

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    Pour inside, for ex. 100ml aka 100 mili liters.

    And then put inside chemical from the bag,for ex. 1000mg aka 1000 miligrams aka 1g.
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    Then wait for it to dissolve. It takes long time to completely dissolve, I don't know how much but I just wait about 2 hours.

    Then, when it is dissolved, you should have 10mg / ml , or 10 mili grams of chemical per 1 mili liter of liquid. How I get that number? 1000mg / 100ml = 10mg/1ml.

    Now, you pour that liquid to some container where alcohol won't evaporate, and put it in cold, dark place.

    Whenever I want to dose, I get one of these, called syringes, with needle included:

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    Every needle have mili liter markings on it. Mine haves marking for every 0.1 ml.

    Now you suck 2 mili liters of 10mg/ml liquid, which is 20mg of chemical.
    And then I eat it.

    If you want to snort it, just let the liquid evaporate (1 day), but there is one disadvantage. The dissolved pieces of alcohol will stay with chemical.

    If you want to smoke it, do same like for snorting, and convert it into free-base. Won't talk about that here ;D.


    Now main disadvantages of this method.
    * Alcohol evaporates, so you solution can go more potent overtime, and there will be less of it.

    * You can't inject (IV / IM) that, unless you want beverages in your vein / muscle. If you want to inject, you should make solution only of distilled water and chemical, but many chemicals don't mix so well in water.

    Advantage:
    *Cheap.
    *You don't need scale. ( Only if you put whole powder directly from the bag into liquid)
    *Easy.

    Warning! Some chemicals can be sensitive to water/ethanol etc, so please, check if your chemical will be stable in water/ethanol. 2C-x are known for stability, but not tryptamines! Some of them can break in days.

    Ok, I know this is poorly written, now can you tell me about your techniques, so I can improve mine?

    Thanks :cheers2:
     
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    old spore syringes work good for this..
     
  3. kobilica

    kobilica Member

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    Why not :=)
     
  4. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, it works.
    I use it with distilled water when I do.. just remember that if the vendor sends more product/less product than advertised, you're outta luck.

    As well as that, some chems don't tolerate being diluted (ex. 4-ho-mipt, it will go black and inactive in times ranging from 48 hours - 2 weeks).
     
  5. skarpo0

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    You just saved me a lot of money.
     
  6. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Glad I could help.

    All I ask is that you leave a TR once you do some tests :cheers2:
     
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    CS you smart for your age.. :)
     
  8. mastercylinder

    mastercylinder Banned

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    thats pretty much the way shit comes in vials---mg/ml all the best shit too----if your a druggie like me that is ---lol---liquid OC 20mg/ml mmmmm cherry flavor---liquid morphine also 20/20 --valium 10mg ml---so your doing shit pretty professional
     
  9. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    your only flaw is like CS said, if you don't really have 1000mg to begin with. you probably have more like 1083, or 986 mg. so that would only make your doses a mg or two off. but what if you had 5 grams? or 2.5?

    another thing - technically, you should put the chemical in the graduated cylinder 1st, and then fill up to the 100 mL line with ethanol or distilled water. the powder takes up some volume. so when you dissolve the powder in 100 mL of solvent, you end up with maybe 110 mL of solution, slightly less potent that you think.
    but this is a minor point.

    and be sure to shake well before dosing. it will settle to the bottom
     
  10. liquidacrobat

    liquidacrobat Member

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    A chem student. That's pretty far out - you know that, right?
     
  11. mastercylinder

    mastercylinder Banned

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    better living through chemistry-----lol yeah if your in college and have access to labs--why not---lotta strange shit came out of college labs--------bring it
     
  12. CrypToka420

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    i wish i had access to labs. cant wait till i do. hehe, ill be having weird things come out there
     
  13. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    That is far out. Its pretty sick.

    EH HMMMM biochem...
     
  14. kobilica

    kobilica Member

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    You got the point, but errors aren't that big. 1G of powder would be compared to like 5ml of water. (in terms of volume)

    You can put chemical into cylinder, but then you gotta measure very carefully so you don't go over your intended size of solution ;). - if you put too much liquid in, you can't pour it out.

    If you had 5 grams of expensive chemical, I am sure you wouldn't put it all into liquid, and if you could afford 5 grams, you can afford the scale, so I believe whoever ordered so much does have scale, and can scale a 1 gram out ;D.

    About tryptamines. Some of them are very unstable in water. Will mention on main post.
     
  15. PsychedelicLover

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    So can anyone have advise on what substances this works for and doesn't to give us a heads up?
     
  16. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    it should work fine with most any RC.

    for any 2c-x, and most tryptamines.

    with dox compounds and bromo-dfly it's probably the only way to measure them...though you want to be 110% sure you know your starting weight.

    you'll need to use everclear [99% grain ethanol] for any base [5-meo-dmt, amt freebase ect...] though you don't really need to measure doses of 5-meo-dmt accurately...i find the more the better :)

    you're probably better off buying a scale though.
     
  17. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i don't understand the bold statement

    and i meant that someone could order and pay for 1 gram, but accidentally receive 5 grams. that would probably result in a disaster if you did liquid measurement only.
     
  18. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    thanks if you were talking to me.


    i do work in a lab, but i work on yeast. i don't have much knowledge about neurobiology or drug design, so nothing crazy is gonna be coming outta there from me. i do like to use the scales though
     
  19. kobilica

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    My bad, I just don't seem to notice errors even after checking my posts :(
     
  20. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    no problem
     
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