Hello, What's the difference between 4-aco-dmt and 5-MeO-DMT? Obviously, there's a difference in chemical structure, but is there any difference in the experience? In the effects on your body? In where you can get it from or how its synthesized/extracted? Any difference you can think of at all? BTW, are these two the only variations on DMT or are there others? Are there huge amounts of others, and if so, are there only a handful worth exploiting? Available?
you smoke 5-meo-dmt and it's an overwhelming out of body experience that lasts <30 minutes the bulk of the experience is over in the first 10 minutes. I would describe 5-meo-dmt as an extremely bizarre experience, unlike anything else i've ever tried. It can be extremely profound, and some find it to be terrifying. i personally love this compound for it's intense introspection. [more info: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt.shtml] you eat/snort 4-aco-dmt and it lasts 4-6 hours [though some report long after effects up to 12, or even 24...this hasn't been the case for me]. it is mostly an open eye mushroom like trip, full of beautiful colors, and in higher doses STRONG visuals. [more info: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_acetoxy_dmt/4_acetoxy_dmt.shtml] these are both amazing chemicals...but if you had to ask what is different about them, you REALLY haven't done enough research to be taking either there are many compounds containg the letters "dmt" but none are quite like straight up dmt.
I have only tried 5-meo-dmt and had a wonderful out of body experience In the near future I want to try 4-aco-dmt.
Thanks for the reply shermin, Can you tell me about any of these other compounds - that is, if they're interesting in any way?
I forgot to mention you should stock up on 5-meo-dmt before it becomes scheduled very soon. (In the US)
There are reports all over the place man. If you're really that interested go to erowid or search through trip reports.
Not yet, but I really want to. I might try an extraction next summer. I don't want to try any chemical extractions in the house during the winter. I have some HBWR seeds I have been dying to extract. I just ordered some 5-meo-dmt just because it may be hard to find soon.
HBWR is LSA. Not DMT. For DMT use something like mimosa. Yea, when you do a lot of extracting it makes the place smell like you're straight cookin some shit.
I was just referring to having them and wanting to do the extraction but can't. Not that LSA and DMT are alike. But I am stocking up on things this winter to extract next summer... Because the summer is when I can go outside and trip!
I was using other drugs at the time as well but i think 5 meo dmt was the main cause of me having a temporary break from reality for a good 2-3 months. The experience itself was pretty much just like a flash of thoughts and mind images in the span of 10 minutes. with some euphoria lasting about an hour and a half after. All i could feel was my breathing and heartbeat. You see a bunch of fractals and squiggly lines when you are coming up but kind of burst through that to a 'void'? or nothingness that is far different from other psychedelics and far different from opiates as well. I dunno i enjoyed the experience but the following weeks I was severely paranoid and quite delusional. I've heard 5 aco dmt is like a better mushroom trip but just that very similar to mushrooms. Anyways my advice is to try and get N, N Dmt ("normal dmt") somehow. A good substitute for 5 meo Dmt is ketamine. Try a k hole dose of that and it's the closest thing i can compare 5 meo to and i actually prefer K holes anyways, (they last longer and have some interesting visuals) Regarding extractions, 5 meo dmt is found in the sonoran desert toad, so when people talk about toad licking or if you have heard of them squeeze toads backs that's what people are trying to get out. I believe it's found in some other animals and plants as well. As for 5 aco dmt i don't know anything about the extraction but it's converted to psilocin when ingested which is one of the active alkaloids of mushrooms. If you have to try 5 meo dmt just be prepared for possible psychological effects for the following weeks, i know it doesn't happen to everyone but i read about it before i did it but definitely did not understand it until it happened to me and for how short the experience was i don't think it's worth it.
Way too cold most of the time. But I Would like to take some mushrooms and go snowboarding... After there is so much snow in the mountains all of the bears and moose come down to a lower elevation and I don't really feel like shooting at something while on drugs. I don't leave the house without my .357sig And I have been chased by plenty of wildlife in my short years so...
there is no way in hell i could snowboard on mushrooms...i've shot a BB gun on 4-aco-dmt...and Hunter S Thompson made a lot more sense! but i intend to get a gram or 2 of 5-meo-dmt as soon as my current venture concludes. i don't think the scheduling in the usa is going to matter much..all my sources for it are out of the states anyway.
4-ho-dmt is psilocin [the main chemical in mushrooms..., along with psylocybin [4-phosphoryloxy-dmt] which is metabolized into psilocin] 5-ho-dmt is bufotenin...which is somewhat terrifying from what i've read. http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal.shtml anything on ^that list.. have fun
Hey can you smoke 5-meo-dmt using a lightbulb vaporizer just like the one the guy makes in this vid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhEGp7aD-qA And can you still order 5-meo-dmt online and have it shipped to the US legally? and can someone give me a legit site?
5-meo-dmt is becoming scheduled soon, I think it has started in some states but not federally. But I'm sure some sources will still carry it.
