The Unpublished Battle of WWII

Discussion in 'History' started by BraveSirRubin, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. BraveSirRubin

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    Do any of you know any more about this? They have recently uncovered it and there doesn't seem to be much information about it out there.

    Apparently on the 14th of July of 1944 the allied forces (predominantly Britain) battled the Germans at sea. The British destroyer had to face off with a German U-Boat, but the U-Boat had a failure, which forced it to raise above water. This caused the crew to flee and a gun-fight erupted above the surface. Rumor has it that all the Germans were viciously slaughtered, and that sharks approached the bodies and ate them as the British laughed and cheered. They say that the U-Boat is still floating somewhere above the surface.
     
  2. GLENGLEN

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    Methinks, At This Point In Time B.S.R, You Are Floating "Higher" Than Your

    Storyline....:D.



    Cheers Glen.
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

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    Please research this if you do not believe this event has happened.

    Otherwise refrain from posting here unless you have significant historic evidence about this certain event in modern Jew-hating history.
     
  4. GLENGLEN

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    Sorry, I Will Try Harder In The Future......:eek:.



    Cheers Glen.
     
  5. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    This might be a hard thing to investigate, it's probably just another blip on the vast battle of the Atlantic.
     
  6. yellowcab

    yellowcab Fresh baked

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    I dont doubt that a battle like that happened, but I seriously doubt if the uboat is still drifting around the ocean.
     
  7. BraveSirRubin

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    There is clear historic evidence of the battle happening, it's just spread out. There are also sightings of the U-Boat, which has grown to a mythical infamy.
     
  8. PeaceInTheStreets

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    Maybe you should go do an investigation, go to Europe and all. Oh wait nvm you'd have to get off the computer for a while.

    haha just kidding...

    That's crazy if that did happen.
     
  9. LostOne

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    It probably did happen. People are fucked especially when they are reduced to animals and kill each other. This and worse have happend during wartime.
     
  10. BraveSirRubin

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    What are you talking about?

    War is brutal, and therefore awesome.

    Go and listen to some metal, hippie!
     
  11. Lafincoyote

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    The British would have taken control of an enemy vessel that had been abandoned and left on the oceans surface, and sailed or hauled it back to one of their ports. There was a code book on every U-Boat that was used in communications, and that would have been a nice catch for British intelligence if it was still aboard, it had lead covers, and was to be thrown overboard before the sub was abandoned. The US Navy managed to capture a code book off a floundering Nazi sub before it went under once during the war, and used it to great effect against the Germans. There was also a significant amount of Mercury that was used in the U-Boats ballast system, and it was valuable then, as now, and the British would not have ignored the salvage value represented by an abondoned sub.
     
  12. Azog 150

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    My Great-Granddad's ship was sunk by a U-Boat and his crew mates were attacked by sharks. He was sunk twice during the Battle of the Atlantic (He was a merchant navyman)

    I also had a Great-Uncle (also merchant navy) who was involved in the Laconia incident. Basically, he was on a ship carrying civilians and Italian POW's from North Africa to Britain. The ship was hit by a U-Boat who realized its mistake and helped them out of the water (Including my reletive). It was flying the Red Cross to show it had civlians, wounded and POW's on board. However, several US bombers targetted it regardless, killing many of those on board and causing the U-Boat to flee. Luckily my reletive survived though and was captured by a Vichy French ship and kept as a POW.

    This led to the Laconia order- basically German sailors were then onwards told to leave Allied sailors in the water.

    I also had 3 other reletives in the Merchant Navy (2 of them died) including one who did the Russian route from Liverpool to Murmansk- the survival rate for that was just 1 in 10, if you got sunk in those waters you froze to death within seconds.

    My Granddad also served in the royal Navy. He was the commander of a Motor Torpeedo boat and he mostly served in the Meditteranean. It was basically his job to go into Ports and Naval bases, blow up as much as he could and get out. He told me horror stories of driving by dying German and italian sailors and he wasn't allowed to help them out as they had to make a quick getaway. He said he never forgot their screams and he felt very guilty about not helping them out throughout his life.
     
  13. LostOne

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    Damn...
     
  14. scratcho

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    Fascinating story,azog. BSR--I think I saw a movie a long time ago about an incident like you describe except for the U-boat floating around. Black & white ,as I recall.
     
  15. dirtydog

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    My understanding, and I haven't researched this, is that Hitler had issued a 'no prisoners' order to his U-boats. If this is correct, the British would have just been returning the favour. Certainly if I were a British seaman at this time I would have laughed and cheered the sharks on.

    Similar things happened in the Pacific (Americans vs. Japanese), but I can't quote a source. Americans knew that Japanese soldiers surviving a transport sinking would never surrender on a battlefield, so they saw no point in taking prisoners.
     
  16. Azog 150

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    Yeah, it was called the Laconia Order. My Great Uncle was actually involved in the Laconia Incident which led to that order.
     
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    Karl Doenitz was tried at Nuremburg for war crimes. With regard to War Order 154 and the Laconia Order, "evidence of similar conduct by the Allies was presented at his trial, his sentence was not assessed on the grounds of this breach of international law." He was sentenced to ten years for planning, initiating and waging a war of aggression, and for "crimes against the laws of war", and served all ten years.
    The "similar conduct" might refer to the sinking by the Russians of the German ship Goya, which was packed with 7000 civilians, in April 1945. 170 survived. Also, U.S. Admiral Nimitz said that the U.S. practiced unrestricted submarine warfare in the Pacific.

    Of course, the Goya was packed with civilians because these people, many of them women and children, were fleeing the Russian offensive in east Prussia. The Russians were raping and murdering any German woman they could get their hands on, of any age.

    Sources: Wikipedia for Doenitz.
    John Toland, "The Last Hundred Days", for the Goya.
     
  18. Elijah

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    this coming from the guy who called the attack on the uss liberty accidental? you don't attack a boat with a BIG flag identifying it's country of origin for three hours accidently. jew hating history? considering that many historians are jewish and many publishing houses having jewish ownership, i find that a humorous comment.

     
  19. Elijah

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    a LOT of allied war crimes have been ignored over the years. but then again the winners are NEVER the war criminals.



     
  20. guy

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    what you are missing here is this

    brave sir rubin is apparently israeli

    he now lives in america because he doesn't want to go back to israel

    he still backs israel even though he can't stand living there.

    lots of israelis want to get out of israel but have been infected by years of fanatical indoctrination, hence the dichotomy between act and opinion.

    that said at least rubin doesn't argue against this too much.

    the whole "jew hating" slander thing you have to understand is something that he has learnt from the fanatics. if anyone dares question you you just throw some shit in their face and tell them they hate jews.

    once you understand that it means you shouldn't take it personally and just understand you are arguing against a programming not any rational logic or examination of a subject.
     
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