Let's face it, guys: penetration costs money. You pay for it one way or another. Given all my past experiences of anal sex, I've realized that I've never paid nothing for it. Here, then, is a very poignant question. Just as the head of your penis enters your girl's asshole for the first time, ask yourself this: How much money have I spent to get to this point? An optional poll will be included here. Feel free to share your experiences here in this thread.
I couldnt vote since we got married about 12 years ago and started doing anal regularly about 5 years ago. Too hard to determine what was spent. I dont feel I really paid for it per say. Maybe with girlfriends way back when. Hmmm...
You spend money to do things with your girl because that's the way the world works. You can't do it for free. If you could do it for free then I'm sure you'd get the same result, unless your girlfriend is a gold digger. If you think you're paying for sex then that really shows the way you think about things, as if you think of your girl as a prostitute.
I've never had to pay anything for it - unless you count travel expenses - and even then, most of the time they've come to me. Most of the time the relationships have been of a purely sexual nature, where they wanted satisfying without having to commit to anything more (well, why shouldn't women have that the same desires as men do?). Regarding sex with men, the only ones I been with have been contacts from online dating sites, such as AdultFriendFinder.com, where the encounters were always mutually one-off, no ties, with no questions asked - the only 'costs' being those of condoms & lubes.
Count it. I once flew on a plane from San Francisco to Atlanta to fuck a 19-year-old girl in the ass. She didn't ask for anything, but the ticket cost me $450. Count all expenses related. Flowers, count it. Birthday presents, count it. Plane tickets, count it. Restaurant tabs, count it. These are all things you buy in lieu of penetration; these are things you do not buy if you stayed at home, jacking off while watching porno movies.
I don't see much of a difference between wife or hooker. You still pay for it either way. I contend that it is cheaper to rent than to buy. Ask men who lost shitloads of money in divorce and they will give you a good dose of reality.
Is this the basis for the advise you'll be giving your daughter about marriage? or about her career choices?
Well at least you confirmed my thoughts about you. I don't think about it that way but to each their own I suppose. I remember your story about flying way out to fuck a girl in the ass (which I thought was a ridiculous thing to do). It was your fault that you decided you wanted to pay all that money to fly out there. But by the way that girl sounds, if you met her across the street and just walked there for free, she still would have let you fuck her in the ass. Calling you wife a hooker just because you spend money to do things with her is a fucked up thing to do. But whatever.
Dude, just go to nomarriage.com and read the articles for yourself. See the ugly side of marriage and take the perspective of divorced men who lost half their money. Give half your hard-earned money all in the name of love, right?
Lol, the age old scenario. Sure, it's pretty lame/crass/rude/insulting to imply that your wife/GF is no more than a prostitute, but when it boils down, you court someone, be that by buying them flowers, booze, dinner or whatever, with the intent to, one day, have intercourse (anal or otherwise) with that person, whether it be back yours that very night, or over a period of months or years. Dating really is just a form of legal prostitution. Sorry to make it sound shallow, but that's the truth of it. You spend the money, impress the girl (or the boy, if that's your thing), make her feel loved, appreciated and special, and she lets you into her pants. Simple. One might not actively set out to do those things or purchase those gifts with that intent, but the end result remains. To answer the OP, though, some girls have let me butt-fuck them w.out any prior dating activity or gift buying, whilst others have taken a long time to get to that point. Although there was vaginal intercourse up to that point...
Prenup. Anyway, I don't plan on getting married so that argument doesn't apply to me. Intent is very important though. If you don't care about love and are only doing that stuff to get in someone's pants like Backdoor Man then yes, that girl is more or less just like an unknowing prostitute. Maybe I'm old-fashioned but there's more to dating than getting into someone's pants.
Dude, would you really be so stupid to give a chick everything you own and truly expect absolutely nothing in return? You may call that romantic, but I call it downright foolish. You don't buy a chick flowers just so you can be a nice guy--you buy them so you can eventually get into her butt. If you knew deep down that there is absolutely no way you'll get action from her--that there is zero chance, not one iota--you wouldn't be so inclined to make the effort. Would you buy a bouquet of flowers to a happily-married woman in a gesture to be nice? I sure as hell wouldn't.
No, I wouldn't be so stupid. I would expect a loving relationship and a happy life with her, yes. What I'm saying is it's not all about sex for me. I'm NOT saying sex isn't important; sex comes with the territory and it can be a deal breaker if needs aren't being met. But my ultimate GOAL isn't sex. If it was then I would just hire hookers all my life and get my sex there. According to you there's no difference anyway. Why would I buy flowers for a happily-married woman? She's with another man and doesn't care about me. There's no reason to do that. I don't understand your point here. I wouldn't have sex with a married woman even if she offered it with no strings attached. I wouldn't be inclined AT ALL to buy flowers for a woman I had no chance with. Again, why would I do that? You do nice things for people you like in hopes of them liking you back. If there's no chance of that happening then I'd rather give that money away to a homeless person and put it to use.
Dude, EVERYTHING costs money. Food, gas, shelter, and yes even the company of an attractive woman. Even if you want to find God it costs money. Churchs, spiritual teachings like meditation, astral projection. Knowledge costs money. Just about everything but air costs something.
Somehow I see this attitude as very crass and negative. Unfortunate. And yes, I have bought flowers for a married woman - my sister appreciated the thought on her anniversary.
In many ways I can understand the opinion of viewing women merely as sex objects as cheapening the women, but it plays both ways. Women have sexual desires as well as men, and many are all too eager to find a man who is willing to satisfy them without having to commit to a relationship. If the nature of the meeting is accepted beforehand as being for mutual consensual sexual satisfaction, and nothing else, then what can possibly be wrong with that? The agreement of plain & simple, no strings attached, down to brass tacks sex makes matters so much less complicated than being in a relationship & determining when to actually go all the way, without worrying about the other partner thinking that's all you want of them, when they may well be thinking exactly the same thing. Of course, the same ruling applies to Gay sexual encounters as well.