Offshooting the trip...benzo vs. depressants.

So as we know benzos will help knock someone out of the trip loop if things get too rough.

Why does a benzo short circuit a trip and are there any other things that do the same?

There are other instant fix medications for anxiety, such as depressants like Vistaril.

Does anyone think that this would pull you out of a trip as well?

Experiences with depressants and trips?
What's the difference with what's happening?

Thanks in advance.

 

They are anti-anxiety meds. So when your anxiety gets canceled, your trip is more easy going. Generealy, benzos slow down your mind, relax it, make it more care-free. That's why.

Experience: You might hallucinate same, but your mind will be less headfucked, and less drunk/down. That is my experience with 30mg 2c-E and 7x 0.25 Helex, and some alcohol (0.5L wine). I had profound hallucinations, but was lazy as fuck. No anxiety, but not such europhia either.

 

yeah i agree it doesn't really cancel the trip just the anxiety and anxiety and panic is usually what causes a bad trip. infact i find rivitril great for preventing bad trips if one is prone to them. now atypical anti-psychotics like zyprexa will stop a trip dead in its tracks completely and this is because it is an antagonist of the 5-ht2 receptors, among other things.

 

yea, that will help but i've had problems with atypical antipsychotics [not in conjunction with anything, but seroquil by itself]...

some tricyclic anti depressants [trazidone] do about the the same thing [as well as some sedation].


i'd steer clear of those unless shit really hits the fan. alcohol can mellow you out a little, but not much, and its doesn't feel very healthy if you're on something with a high bodyload [mushrooms].

i'd steer clear of them unless absolutely necessary.

Ambien helped knock me out towards the end of a sketchy 2c-e trip...made me stop grinding my jaw like a madman, and i woke up the next day with no jaw pain. A week or so before i also got to jaw grinding on 2c-e, and i woke up and could barely talk.

honestly, if i have the ability to abort a bad trip, and decide not to, it's often at the point where i decide not to that it moves to a positive headspace...this feeling is truly rewarding.

 

Sweet.

Thanks guys. I didn't know about the anti-psychotics being able to completely kill a trip.

So, does taking an anti-anxiety med have any side effects that actually take "away" from the trip?

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SWIM was on a few day binge of hallucinations when on the third day of acid a few bong rips put SWIM over the edge. SWIM's heart was racing as fast as beats can beat and blood pressure was way up. Visuals were not there any more but actual reality was morphing in and out of nothingness. Needless to say, SWIM was not enjoying this high body load at all.

It was probably the result of draining and straining the brain without giving time for recovery. After taking Lorazepam, SWIM was able to come down and relax. SWIM's vitals returned to a normal range and SWIM was still tripping (just not like he was prior to taking the benzo). SWIM passed out within an hour of taking the benzo.
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SWIM told me that it was getting to be too much too handle and SWIM was glad that there were downers around to help get his mind out the place it was in.

Other experiences?

Basically, SWIM is trying to figure out if it's the "anxiety" element that causes SWIM to feel this way.

SWIM was under the impression that benzos were the saving grace of a trip from hell, but is now learning that anything that removes the anxiousness is the saving grace, whether it is benzo, depressant, or whatever else have you.

 

It takes memory of experience, and being more high even in happy way, If I remember correctly.

 

2mg of xanax pretty much knocked out the most intense acid trip i've ever had, i was able to sleep about 2 hours after taking the xanax and was about 8 hours into the trip, usually i'd be left awake 14-15 hours after dropping acid, sometimes more. My friend took a few hits of some hofmann and took this shit called buspar (for anxiety, and when i took it by itself, it gave me more of a sleepy effect than xanax) at the end of the night (2am) and wasn't able to get to sleep til 6am. I might be mistaken but I don't think Buspar is classified as a benzo, so from now on i'm sticking with xanax to kill my trips

 

it makes the trip weak, and much less profound in my experience...

 

Buspirone (Buspar) is not a benzo, but it is an anti-anxiety med. It's not scheduled, either. I took some once. Made me all tingly, which I can't say of any other drug.

I've heard that taking anti-psychotic meds doesn't take care of bad trips as well as benzos and does not cancel the effects. Also, I've heard it doesn't make you feel very good. If you go to the hospital freaking out on acid or the like they will load you up with lorazepam or diazepam.

 

idk...most doctors don't really care unless a person is violent/screaming...

and in that case, it's still very unlikely that a doctor will "give you drugs if you're doing drugs"...so you're probably more likely to get haldol or something.

but every anti-psychotic i've ever taken has made me feel like shit.