Help | I want to grow =\

Hi there...

I live in Israel and I want to start growing.
I think I'll grow inside my house or on my roof I'm not sure yet.
The main thing is that because I live in Israel I don't know where can I buy seeds from =\
I can order seeds online but I don't know if they'll arrive (cannabis is illegal in Israel).
Do you think that the customs will find it? what are the odds?
Can you give me some instructions? Can I even start growing? (I am not that rich =\ I don't have so much $$).
(How many seeds I need to have a nice self-use amount of weed).

P.S.
I appreciate if you give me a good site that I can order seeds from to Israel (with quick delivery and some good shit ).
and recommend me which kind of cannabis is the best for a good F-ing STONE

thanks,
Shay.

 

short answer: you probably cant do it. you need to invest money in seeds, light, and odor elimination (this last one is SUPER IMPORTANT, and fairly expensive)

long answer: i used the attitude seed bank with great results. however, i dont know if they ship worldwide. customs usually wont find seeds. odds are probably 1/30, if not lower.
your gonna need to invest 100$ in seeds, 100-400$ in lights, 150-400$ in decent air filtration.


as for strains, find the one YOU want. all the quality seeds give a good stone. you should focus more on the smell, taste, and other qualities of the plant.

 

100$ on seeds? how many seeds do I need to produce self-use amount of weed? (1-2 plants).
do I really need lights? it won't grow without it?
about the odor elimination, is the smell that strong?
and if I'll grow it on my roof, it won't grow? i cant put lights on my roof lol
cannabis is a sacred thing, I'll try to invest as much as I can.
and another question, do I need to use fertilizer?

thanks.

 

1) the smallest number of seeds youll find is a 5-pack of feminized. these are usually 40-100$
2) plants NEED light. the more, the better. it also needs to be either MH, HPS, or FLOURESCENT light. old-style lightbulbs dont work.
3) with 1 plant, its controllable, with 2, you need somthing to absorb it.
4) if you put it on your roof, your gonna get busted. either a neighbour or a helicopter will see it. (they get fairly large)
5) no, but some nutrients will DEFINITELY increase yield.

a plant usually takes about 1-2 months from seed to preflowers. it then takes 2-3 months for flowering. you will need to plan your timing, based on how much you will smoke during the ~4 month growing period.(assume each plant will give you 10-20 grams on your first time)

 

klondike, u have impressed me with your knowledge in this topic.
i have a question for u.
so im guessing around $1000, just to get started?
and what is the cost of upkeeping for 1 or 2 plants.

 

Okay Klondike Your not always true because right now I'm growing red kush or was it orange kush but whatever back to the subject so any way.. i started growing hm lets see in about June of 09 okay it went horribly wrong because i used alcohol as my sanitizer and dried the dirt so since then i decided i different way... okay so i have about 17 animals all of which have proper day and night lights... then I'm like hm mm i can use that to my benefit so i decided to grow in my hermit crab tank first i started with about 8 plants then i decided to only grow one at a time so i dried the plants and smoked them and it worked ha-ha so any way my hermit crab tank cost me nothing i got it for Xmas one year and it has amazing lights and its all sand and i heard afghan kush is grown in sand so this plant must be a good one.. and for the seeds just get a whole bunch of bud and you can usually find seed if you just pull the bud apart instead of grinding it.. so technically you only need about 10 dollars if your just gonna get like a 10 gallon tank i have a 120 gallon tank but what ever.. then a light maybe 10 15 dollars then you can get like a light fixture for the light and woo la and you don't need any night lights for it.. oh and also I'm just growing as if it were to grow in the wild so I'm not doing any thing to it except occasional trimming and watering.. you only need to spend 1000 dollars if your trying to get the best shit but if your just growing for your own usage use the cheep way its still good shit just not as good if you invested shit loads of money..
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^ Ok, don't use reptile lights and don't use only sand as your growing medium. Sand should be used as a soil amendment in volumes less than 10%.

 

damn yo! i bet you got crazy ass amounts of the dankest of dank no doubt, there are plenty of ways to grow.........easy as a bucket, some dirt, some water, and a window sill.........but that really is a waste of time IMO considering all the time you put into it (more or less waiting if you went the cheap route) to only get 1/4 or so of some ok smoke.

If you shop around and can build your own cab or find one and gut it.........or use a closet lol.........you can get a pretty decent start-up for around $300-500........which will pay for itself plus more after your first harvest.........once you get a feel for it, then it's time to start upgrading to the nicer things.

EDIT:: and u just don't use sand solely for a medium.....IF it worked your roots would be hating life......all stunted and stringy......also if your trying to mimmick the outside conditions........thats when you DO end up spending tons of cash through co2 tanks, regulators, air conditioner, mixed spectrum lighting, fans, etc., etc.........

 

just to give ya an idea.......this was alittle more than $10 investment but still minimal i'll add it up........








Grown in a 4ftx2ft cab, 400W HPS, scrapped exhaust fan, fan blowing on plants, and reflectix.

cost for that grow lets see.......rough guesstimate

soil - $30
grow bags - $5
nutrients - $20
exhaust fan - free (scrapped from a job site)
fan for plants - $10
400W HPS - $145 shipped
reflectix - $50
electricity - $50

total - $310 or so for 12.5 oz.'s of dried, trimmed, primo ganj.........totally worth it.

EDIT:: forgot to mention, i already had the clones so no money was spent there........but even if you factor in $100 for seeds....thats still $410 or so.....1 oz. of good bud goes for $400..........so it's really up to you......

$400 for an oz. of good bud from a dealer........OR $400 to buy everything you need to start up and laugh at the dealer selling you 1oz. for $400......'tis up to you.

 

mmm... yum..

 

M4N14C42O I have to spread some rep around, but that looks like a tasty turnout you have there.

What exactly was your soil?

 

hey neuroptican, i actually have a thread here on the site in the grow journals section........http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=359488

but the clones were rooted in straight fox farm ocean forest soil.......then t-planted to fox farm ocean forest with added fox farm peace of mind all purpose dry fert..........nutes used throughout flower were fox farm big bloom and occasionally GH Kool Bloom liquid nute........that's it.....

 

A buddy of mine is actually growing about 12 plants inside an old non-working refridgerator using LED Christmas lights. So far the plants are growing normally without any problems.

 

you can grow on the roof in Isreal without all that expense---good seeds are all important and ive seen awesome plants in 5 gallon jugs--you can grow on the cheap but cant skimp on seeds----peace

 

Yeah man it was pretty dank in the first place but damn i cant wait til this shit is flowering.. actually the sand is kinda a mix of fertilizer also and some other dirts and such because thats the way crabs like it and my plants love it. i just found another 5 plants sprouting up im so happy in about a mounth or so im goona switch the lighting so it flowers quicker.. but yessss.. i spent a total of like 15 bucks but if you include the tank then like 180 then the 6 grams of kush so like mayb 300 dollas

 

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