Advice for a secretly bi guy?

Well put Invisable! Jay, you still around? I enjoy your post's buddy. Chris

 

As for him saying if I met him in real life he could "play with my mind, and I wouldn't even know it". That just gave me the biggest laugh I've had in a long while! He really has a very high opinion of himself, maybe he really thinks he is god or something. lol If I ever did meet him in real life, I wouldn't even give him the time of day. And just for that line alone, he has the nerve to talk about others in this thread "setting a bad example" to the OP. Covert religious brainwashing is hardly a good example! In fact, thats the very type of thing that inflicts depression on so many minorities, and makes them takes their own lives. Besides, what I am is natural, and I was born with, and if he thinks anything his miserable self could say would change that, he's either got an ego the size of the Grand Canyon, or he hasn't got the brains he was born with! He can fix my brain AND my genetics? What an idiot. I'm sure I've put up with a hell of a lot more in my life, than anything that sorry excuse for a human being could throw at me. LOL

"Real audio clips from hell"? And he believes it?? This guy HAS to be a troll! lmao!

 

Amen Brother! I wondered why I was never attracted to women. felt so guilty the first time I gave a guy a blow job, but felt like heaven, at the same time! The right really is something. They really do want to control your every thought. Sucks. I hope Jay didn't leave. I so much enjoyed that guy! What is it about the liberal temperment?

 

How long will my block say guest? When will I be numbered among you all?

 

I think it's after your 50th post? I haven't been here very long, but I'm considered a member. So just hang in there, brother.

--QP

 

Right on. Thanks poet! Love that photo of Janis.

 

I am not a brother!

The thing that amazes me about lunatics like HippiexChild, (That's if his tirades are genuine, and he's not just a troll out for a laugh at others' expense) is that they even attack someone like me, when there is no mention of intersex people in the bible, let alone anything that condemns it. (or transsexuals when it comes to that) and I am basically fireproof from attacks like that, as it is beyond doubt that what I am is natural because I was physically born that way. So, attacks on people like me from "christians" are just proof that they are total bigots, who have prejudices that they can't even use the bible to justify.

Anyway, his quote from Corinthians is a mistranslation/misinterpretation of that actual passage, as the word homosexual was not even printed in bibles till about 60 years ago. As for Leviticus, if he wears clothing made of more than one type of material, eats shellfish, or doesn't mind if others' do, doesn't think it's a sin for men to shave their beards, doesn't think it's okay for kids who disrespect their parents to be put to death, thinks it's okay for farmers to plant more than one kind of seed, or that it's okay to eat pork, and he thinks that slavery is wrong, then he is a hypocrite, and just as "bad" as gay people, as all those things are also mentioned in Leviticus, the same chapter that supposedly says gays are an abomination. Funny how the part about homosexuality is the ONLY part of Leviticus that some christians insist on being truth, and should be upheld. While conveniantly ignoring the rest of it. Hypocrites much?!

 

Notice how most Gay/Bi people don't believe in the God. Ironic isn't it? Could you tell me why that is? If you can answer that question. I will gladly never come back to this site ever again. :]/

Also, Where in the rules does it say I can't talk about religion? I'm expressing my free rights as stated in the constitution. This has nothing to do with the state either. So i don't think i'm going to get banned for expressing my thoughts on this forum.

I'm trying to be nice about it. But your started to really get on my last nerve with the name calling. Chill out.

 

You prolly have put up with alot in your life. You prolly have a fucked up life now to think about it. Cause of the things you say when I bring up religion? What did God ever do to you besides bring you into this earth with your own living soul? Anything BAD thats ever happened in your life was because of the devil. Don't curse God. CURSE SATAN! He wants you to feel bad, and angry. If you even met me in real life, its because it was destined to happen. And you have no idea what I'm like. Just because I type a few paragraphs on here doesn't mean shit. I could be a 75 year old woman pretending to be a very young male. Sure, I put a picture up, But who CAN'T do that these days. Ha. Goes to show that you would fall for anyone saying who they really are over the internet. Sad really. Cause shit like that just isn't healthy my friend. You can keep talking down on me, it doesn't matter. I don't care. Because personally I don't know you. Thats the last thing i'm going to say because i've spoken my peace.

 

Your not controlling what you do. The Devil is. Sex controls you. Its no different than being on drugs. Because both make the spirit dirty. You never had a girlfriend did you? Well if you didn't never have one, how can you say your gay when you never TRIED to be with a girl. Try it. See what happens. And let us know how you feel then... If it doesn't change a thing. Thats fine. But at least you can say, "Hey, I tried." :] Cheers!

 

Janis is a good example of a druggie. i wouldn't put any pictures up of her EVER! I mean, Go research how she died. And Jimi Hendrix, AND Jim morrison.

 

Look, This is my last post. If anyone wants to put me down, and get smart. Go ahead, Cause i'm not going to read it? If you go back and look at my previous post, not once did I put anyone down till they started putting me down. I was making points. I wasn't trying to change anyone or force religion upon anyone till they pissed me off. You called me a Bigot. So i acted like one. Ha. Just goes to show. Your an asshole to somebody, and they'll be an asshole back. Or what goes around comes around. Cheers to all and best wishes! <3

 

Can you blame them? Would you believe in something loads of people claimed saw you as an abomination? That's not to say there aren't gay/bi people who believe in god, there are plenty that do.

There is no rules saying you can't talk about religion. There are rules however, that are there to protect the gay people who post here from harassment, and abuse, Your comparison of gay people to serial killers was clearly inflammatory towards gay people, and would have caused them offense. As you seen from some of the reactions to that post. Just because you're using religion as a justification for those views, doesn't mean they'll be allowed in the forum. You were still discriminating against gay people, and that is something which is not allowed here. You talk about being nice. Maybe if you acted nice, people would treat you the same back. You can't expect to compare gays to serial kilers and the like, and for them to treat you with respect and be nice to you. Its a two way thing, you know. If you attack people, then expect to be attacked yourself. You were clearly attacking, and patronising gay people, just because you did it in a veiled way, doesn't mean you didn't do it. I may not be gay, but I will confront and fight bigotry whenever I see it, because I know what it's like to be on the recieving end of it.

Really? I thought god made us all, not the devil. So, it was your precious god who made me born abnormal, and gave me the life that I have. I was born intersex, and with a hormonal abnormality. Am I angry about that? You bet I am, because I had no say in that, or the decisions made by doctors to try and make me appear "normal" to appease the narrow-minded, ignorant, bigoted society you seem hell bent on defending. And not only do I have deal with all that, I have to deal with crap thrown at me by ignorant morons who don't know any better, yourself included, it would seem. So, you're saying the devil wants me to feel bad, bitter and angry? I think anyone in my position would feel bitter, including you. You should just be very grateful you're not in my position. Im sure you have been angry over far less than what I've had to put up with. Maybe you should look in the mirror before casting judgement on others? Sure, you might not be who you say you are, but that would just make you a liar. Either way, you wouldn't be endearing yourself to anyone, least of all those you profess to be "helping". I am not religious, but playing devil's advocate, by your own people, the devil didn't make me, god did. So it was he who gave me this curse to live with, not the devil. And it is funny...the people who would give me the hardest time about what I am, are the very people that profess to believe in god, and claim to be "righteous". Weird, that. I was just astounded that you even thought for a moment you could change something I was born with, and have felt all my life. Who do you think you are? People like me are not even mentioned in your precious bible, so why try and use religion to "help" me? The big problem with your sort, is you comment, or try to give advice on issues you clearly haven't got the first idea about. So I think it's for the best that you say no more on this issue.

 

You aren't making any friends here at all bud. I suggest you smoke a big fat bowl, suck some cock and be a liberal, if you wanna hang out here! Because you're starting to sound like Sara Palin.

 

I believe you have mental problems too. Because your fucking saying things that are off this earth. About how i'm defending this country? How? Did you not read and comprehend anything I said in my previous post? I guess not. I was also using serial killers as an example of what I was saying, And that shows you have no idea how to read sentences.

You shouldn't be pissed. Yet again everything you just said was the Devil making you talk like that. The devil is a trickster. Maybe God made you the way he did because he wanted to test you. He tests us all on a daily basis to see if we will remain faithful to him. It doesn't matter what the circumstance. My sister is 3 hours away with my mom and dad because she is having surgery. I'm at the house by myself every since yesterday. Its all one big test. You can't lose faith just because something isn't going right in your life. If you do, your letting the devil take your soul little by little.. You have to pray. And keep on going. Cause would I tell you anything that would hurt you? whats the worst praying can do.. Besides make you feel better.. And do better in life because you have Jesus in your life. Walking with Jesus can make you stronger than Greg Valentino. I actually prayed for everyone on this forum last night. I hope that your lives start to go well. I also prayed that everyone could overcome their troubles. And if by some chance. That God would touch each and everyone of you. I hope that happens. I hope that you all are able to be saved. It would make me the happiest person in the world to know that I was able to save some people.

 

Dude. Do you have any idea on the things I really could say to the people thats gay? But i'm not. Ha. I'm trying to be nice about it but people just won't shut up... Your blowing this out of proportion. And real bad too.

 

You believe I have mental problems because I said something about you "are defending this country"? Geez, I think it's you that has the mental problems. I didn't say that, or anything like that, so where are you getting that from?? I have no idea how to read sentences because of the way I took what you said about gays and serial killers? In that case, everyone else who saw that post doesn't know how to read sentences, as they all responded to it in the same way. You compared gay people to serial killers, because you said like them, gay people make the choice to be gay, just as serial killers choose to kill. That was how I saw the statement. Am I wrong?

You know, it's really funny.... I am not religious, however, being agnostic, I am open minded about religion, god, spirituality, reincarnation, all that stuff. I have wondered, completely hypothetically of course, what if I am being tested? Because obviously, being born the way I was, I've been very confused, and tried to make some sense of it, or find some reason for it. You say I am angry, well how would you feel, if by something completely out of your control, people see you as, and treat you as a gender you actually arent, finding a loving relationship is next to impossible, you can't have sexual relations, and people ridicule you and condemn you, and you're socially outcast? Am I weak for being upset and bitter about this? Maybe, but I think you'll agree, completely understandable, just the same. Now, what would be highly ironic about this, if you are right, and god made me born with this affliction to test me, that as I've stated before, a lot of the people that would harass me, call me abnormal/freak/abomination or whatever, would be religious people. So, I put this to you, as well as people like me being tested by being given this affliction at birth, do you not think christians are being tested, by seeing how you treat gay, intersex people, or whatever? Because as you should know, Christ befriended, welcomed, and protected those that were different from the norm, and shunned by the rest of society. I find it hard to equate this Christ, to you, who seems to be condoning the ignorant and bullying mindset of a lot of general society.

You talked about "playing with my mind", but you can't change something I was born with, and why would you want to even try? If you have a problem with people like me, then it is purely your own bigotry and prejudice, as that is not even mentioned in the bible, and you cannot argue about it being "unnatural" either, as I was born this way. You talk about "saving people"? Maybe the first person you should be looking at saving, is yourself. And I think a lot of religious people are guilty of this. They spend so much time on other people, pointing out, and judging their sins, without looking at themselves, and their own sins. You talk about judging, well, if you're going to judge others, you cannot be surprised when you are judged yourself. And by your own religion, being a believer, god will come down a lot harder on you than a non believer, if you think that just having faith means you can sin all you like, and it won't matter because you believe.

 

*Sigh* There you go again with the talking crazy. I never, not once, stated that I had a problem with gays, intersex, or any of those types of people. I told you my view on it? And then what, people want to get pissed off. We've had this talk already, just go back a couple of pages. I know my sins, And I try my best to avoid doing them. But like i've said before, its impossible to be sinless. Only Jesus was. And thats the cold hard truth. And like I'll say again, Idk how many more times i'm going to say it, We judge each other on a daily basis, Just as you are judging me right now. Ha. Hell yea I judged. And I said I was going to before I actually did it. If you go back and read, you'll find that.

Your making a big deal about nothing really. When other people who don't LIKE gays or anything would come on here and use the terms such as "Faggot" or "Weirdo" when I would never do such a thing. And you know that as well as I do because it prolly has happened to you before. People are so cruel and I share your pain equally. We're aren't the same, but i'm pretty sure we've both had a hard life.

You think I posted on here to start something? No. I posted to share my beliefs and views with the other people viewing this thread.

If you really think the whole world has it out for you. Your mistakened. You have your affliction, I have mine. And I haven't dated for more than two years because my Ex ole lady had me arrested twice, put in the nut house, and I even tried to kill myself over her because she was sleeping with a 40 year old.. and she was only 18. My girlfriend before that, Which i loved so much, Died in a car Wreck. You can google her name and see for yourself. Aylah Aleecia Brewer. Bringing me to my point. I don't care to date, And I don't plan to date EVER again.

 

You say you have no problem with intersex, yet you said you would "play with my mind". You say you have no problem with gays, yet you compared them to serial killers, and said the best way to fight bullies is to give into them. Maybe you have no problem with gays, but you cannot blame them, or me for thinking that you did, with the things you were saying. And why should the weak give into the bullies? Did Christ give into them? No. In a lot of ways, I feel I am being crucified for no other reason than I was born with an affliction that I had no control over, and I certainly would not have chosen had I the choice. Christ was ridiculed, and crucified. Now he knew that was going to happen, but he went through with it anyway. The weak, and cowardly thing to do, is pander to bullies just to get them off your back. It takes a lot more strength to be yourself, and do what you know is right in your heart, even if it means others making your life a hell.

I have never been called "faggot", but "weirdo" I have been called on many occasions. You may not have used that language, but you still offended gay people by comparing them to serial killers. They took offense to that, and I think they had every right to do so. People are very cruel, and that is something I became aware of at a very young age. Eventually, I even started thinking there was something wrong with me, because if all these people were saying I was a "weirdo", then they were probably right. It took me a long time to realise it is them who were in the wrong, not me. I can't help the way I am, they however, can.

It definitely seemed like it. Whether you meant to or not, you did offend gay people, so it did look like you just wanted to upset people. I'm not saying you were doing that, but that was definitely how it appeared. And the fact everyone else took it that way should tell you something.

From bitter personal experience, I would say if the whole world isn't out for me, a sizeable proportion of it is. Let me just say this, I have experienced far more negativity from people because of my condition, than positivity. Id say the balance is about 90% - 10% in favour of the negativity. At least you have the choice whether to date or not. I never had that choice, at least not if I wanted to remain true to myself, and not do anything which seemed horrible, and unnatural to me. The thought of any physical contact with anyone in my current physical state is repulsive to me, so I won't do it. The lack of any kind of romantic love in my life does hurt me a great deal, but I know I've done the right thing by remaning alone. Not that most guys would want to be with me anyway, if they knew about my condition. And the ones that would, are probably fetishists, and not worth being with anyway.

I'm really sorry to hear about your girlfriend. That must have been very hard for you.

 

Ok, I apologize on the whole serial killer thing. I was just tryin to make a point. Thats all. Cause personally I didn't mean to offend anyone out there if I did. And you really took the whole playing with your mind thing a little too seriously. What I meant was that i'm able to get people to do things they normally wouldn't do. I never once said give into the bullies, I said BLEND IN!

Your really not missing anything so don't worry about it. Anyone who says they love you these days only say the word with no meaning at all. I don't think true love exist, And i could careless if i ever found it. I would rather DIE than fall in love again. Cause all girls are monsters. And the ones that aren't, are fucking taken away from me somehow