4-AcO-DMT 50mg oral

setting: indoors, two people

set: psychedelia ho!

The platter with the bittersweet white powder is licked. The taste is much worse than I remembered . . . all drugs taste worse and worse the more you do them. Except pot

5 minutes later I get first alerts. This stuff kicks in so fast. 10 minutes later it's clear something major is going to happen soon, so we go to smoke some hash and really kick this journey in gear.

We get a few hits of hash in, and this causes the whole thing to go to warp speed. 5 minutes after starting smoking I am having trouble understanding what my hands are, everything is breathing, moving, waving, glowing, and I feel like I am composed of an infinite amount of infinitely thin slices of the universe, all rippling in harmony like sheets in the wind. We quickly put everything down and go straight to bed to ride this out. It's difficult to walk, and things are getting very, very deep.

Upon collapsing on the bed and putting on some south park (it may surprise you, but I have a very deep connection to south park. First of all I think it's the smartest social commentary period, and second after coming down my first breathrough DPT experience and watching south park, it's a fantastic anchor to the reality of society, which is always entertaining, especially on psychedelics), we both have very unequal reactions for the next 3 hours or so. My friend is perfectly fine, a little trippy but enjoying the show and understanding it and multitasking on the laptop. I am shocked by this, as this is a big dose of a strong drug, but she is pretty hard-headed.

I on the other hand, am absolutely incoherently high for several hours. I am deep into ego loss territory. Large chunks of the trip are missing in my head. The parts I remember are incredible. It is VERY mushroomy, but still different. Reality is flipped into a higher dimension and then from an angle not previously accessible it is revealed that everything is infinitely large on this new axis of being/size/whatever. Everything is everything. I am filled with overwhelming joy. I giggle incessantly for 20 minutes at a time, then close my eyes and dont say anything for half an hour. The visuals are insane. Absolutely mind blowing. I didn't get any at 40mg, at 50mg they are as strong as a breakthrough DMT experience. I was not prepared for the scope of this trip. 40mg was an introspective, euphoric, largely functional trip. 50mg is beyond intro/extro duality, euphoria becomes much too weak a word to use and instead the word arousal or awakening is much better, and I was not fully functional even 24 hours after dosing. I am still quite dazed.

The entire time I had a raging erection, and it was part of the thing that was making me giggle and squirm and touch everything around me and just be an absolute geyser of good vibes.

The come down arrives, and causes me great difficulty. I didn't even struggle this hard on 5 hits of acid. I was having serious problems with aligning my thoughts, actions, and intentions. Everything I said and did went wrong. Everytime I said something it had the opposite effect of what I intended. We go to play some Wii. I fail miserably due to dexterity reasons. The visuals with this technology are unbelievable, I will forever hold my Wii on 4-aco-dmt experience as a benchmark for visuals. Swirls and jets and splatters and smears of glowing twirling trails, everything. This trip was so total, so complete, that I had the distinct impression that if one were to force the drug into a "mind drug" or "body drug" distinction, this one would be a "body drug", because the sensations from your body (and everything else, which becomes your body lol) are unfuckingbelievable, like you don't understand how such a body high is possible without causing some serious galactic shockwaves, and your "mind" has become so positively alien to normal mind processes that it no longer can be described with that word.

I struggle to understand why my slowly re-integrating ego is performing so miserably. I am flooded with thoughts of confusion, anxiety, and generally having some odd psychological hiccup. I am emotionally fine at this point, and understand that I have taken a large dose of a powerful drug, and that these sorts of difficulties will arise in this situation. Nevertheless they plague me for over 12 hours. I am often lost in my thoughts, unable to distinguish between reality outside my thoughts and reality inside my thoughts. It was a very schizophrenic come down. I think the ego was so torn to shreds so profoundly for so long that reintegration was simply messy as hell.

Some nausea was experienced, friend vomited twice in the evening (but lots of smoking and some alcohol was involved).

This blew me away. I realize I underestimated 4-aco-dmt, I didn't realize it got THIS profound. I have never been to this place. In my breakthrough DMT, DPT, mushroom, and acid experiences, I have never been to the place that 4-aco-dmt took me. I mean it was still the same place as everything, and I wondered if I wasn't just over-analyzing the particular flavor or view of 4-aco-dmt regarding the ++++ experience, but the richness of the ++++ was unparalleled. And it was so gentle, I mean before you know it, you're dead, and you didn't even get to struggle.

I was becoming my thoughts which were becoming my intentions which were becoming their actions on my body which was becoming my sensory input which was becoming the flame that fills the universe . . . i mean it was just a whirwind of self-identity and complete loss of identity.

It was much, much, much deeper than I was prepared for. This one gets very, very, very deep.

"Thousand-faced goats of the stars playing fractal mandala drums while dancing the universe to be" deep.

 

DAMN man that sucks about the comedown. 24 hours is a long time.
but i can't wait to try some

 

Man that sounds amazing, I have to get my hands on some of this stuff. Just gotta save a little more money.

 

This report really, really makes me want to take 50mg.
When the time comes, I shall

 

Is it just me or did 12 hours of confusion and anxiety sound torturous. Well atleast you were able to make it positive. good report!

 

great report, as usual

what's the highest dose of mushrooms you've taken? do you think you could get to this point if you ingested enough fungus?

also, would you expect this to combine well with any other substances?

and finally, would you consider doing a higher dose at some point?

 

Anxiety was minimal, just some early "Uh, am i broken now?", and the confusion was just a fried brain and forces of nature at work between me and my friend.

What's the alternative? Sit there confused and anxious and getting more anxious about my confusion and confused about my anxiety and missing out on the whole experience so I can come here and make a thread "my first bad trip" and tell you guys about how I couldn't handle not being in control? nah. Better this way. Always do it this way. Buy your bad trip a beer when he drops in unexpected.

4gs, was pathetically weak. 2.5gs another time was like 5 times more potent.

Of course, I got to that point on 2.5g.

yes, though I wouldn't. Not at a high dose. You will regret it. My opinion on mixing 4-aco-dmt is that its really not super special in low doses, its high doses that are the gold, and those high dose experiences are so rich and cosmic and fantastic that there is just nothing you would ever want to add to it.

Though I would consider doing this on LSD.

I'm not sure. I am leaning towards "no". I saw my limit for the first time that day. It did me good. I am also quite frazzled and burnt out and just feel quite retarded overall, obviously there is serious neural strain at this dosage. It may be related to my several month weekly tripping behavior, which I will be stopping as of 10 seconds into ^that come down. I need a long, long break from these long-acting tryptamines, my brain is definetely experiencing some load-bearing issues. Time to end the festival for me. Been too long anyways.

 

wow was the experience so mystical that you feel you dont need to trip for fear of ending on a bad note, or was the comedown that bad, as far as no mo trips

 

^^^^

 

Both. I need a break. I'm doing this too often, and i don't need to be. I can't be. I'm a student, I can't be frying my neural circuitry every weekend. this one was the most brain-heavy trip of my life. I took it saturday evening, it's monday evening and i still am not 100%. I should be fine by tomorrow morning thankfully.

I am taking a break for health reasons, not for any mystical reasons. My last few weekends have been a blur of ++, +++, and ++++. these little plus signs translate to real things that you can hold, like your face. I need to give it all a rest and just function in society for a while. I am k-holing like crazy writing this. Good medicine i hope. see you on the flip side.

 

nice! did you notice a big difference between this experience and your heavy mushroom trip (not in terms of intensity, but more the quality and "feel")? if so, did you prefer one to the other for any reason?

a friend of mine took a small dose of 4 aco with mdma and said it was really pleasant.

 

huh wow. sounds crazy. well enjoy your time away

 

this trip was beyond any comparison. so speaking from my earlier 40mg TR i will say this is cleaner, less confusing, less emotionally random.

Notice that this trip report kind of refutes that statement. Perhaps the best way to say all this is that the factors of "clean", "confusion", and "emotional drama" appear more readily and tend to be present in lower doses of mushrooms rather than 4-aco-dmt.

 

i love 4-aco-dmt.


nice report.

have you ever tried it in combination with other stuff?

i find that with 4-aco-dmt, every mg makes a difference...the return doesn't seem to diminish at all.

 

glad to hear you had a great trip and that you plan on taking a break. you know i'm with you on that

if i ever tried this compound i'd probably start at 20-25 mg and be satisfied enough to not raise the dosage.

everything is everything. it's a song by "phoenix." if you haven't heard it, listen.

 

4aco is a pretty intense drug a higher doses. ive felt pretty insane on that stuff before, in a psychotic kinda way. but at the same time real calm with the knowledge of "im trippin on a drug, for fun, ok"
i have not gone as high as 50mg though.

i also understand the break thing, im kinda trying to take one right now but its hard cus theres all these events coming up that i wanna trip at. right now im trying to not trip every weekend anymore, get exhausting after a while

 

i tried to play badminton coming up on ~35-45 mg oral...it got REAL. i was falling all over myself within minutes.

 

First off, I hope you are not talking about me in that quote... Kinda sounds like it. Second, YOU are going to stop tripping?!?!?! Life moves so fast... I was hoping to start tripping and getting reports in with you guys, but looks like it might not happen that way. Age gap maybe.

Third, NICE DOSAGE! You skimped on the DPT (in comparison to only a few, none-the-less more than me ) and made me feel like an ass. That dosage is pretty crazy huh?? Lol, I did about the same and gave 2 other people (one had never done a psych) the same dosage. Needless to say, we all thought it was pretty difficult. Fun like crazy, but difficult.

So is this ur last for sure? or do u have a couple remaining trips to tell us?

EDIT that dosage that I gave them was a mistake, one of the only ones I have ever done!

 

nah brah ive never harped on you. not my style. i was speaking completely generally. i wasnt even aware until now consciously that you had bad trip issues? whatever.

guys this isnt my LAST trip lol. i said im taking a break, not quitting. i SHOULD take like a 2 month break minimum. well see how that goes.

this shit is beautiful though, im definetely gonna grab a bigger order while its available from such a great source.

 

Wow you do alot of drugs man haha. So I guess your calling 50mg a "high dose". Would you consider 40 high though? Because from what you said, 40 seemed to be a low dose considering no visuals. Thats only a ten mg difference from a "" experience that we all know and love, to a low soap for perception dose. Do you think set and setting is as much as a variable with 4aco as it is with shrooms? With LSD, I can drop a ten strip, and in just about any setting, get "there". Of course away from people who would notice the completely retarded look on my face. With mushrooms though, SO many factors will determine where they will take me. I would really like to dose some 4aco the next time I can get some L. I used to eat mushrooms on fat doses all the time but now I dont have the stomache for that.