No Mind Denomination That is only Segragation

sorry if quoting Peter Tosh ofends any of the beleivers here, but his words are too fucking true,

God is to big for any of us to fully comprehend, i could pick out so many passages of the bible that we would then go on for eternity arguing over their meaning and some of them are even capable to turn pepople from their faith because they are so confusing and seemingly contradictory,

Take the begining of Job for instance, God meeting with Satan? what the fuck, God boasting about Job? what the fuck, God giving satan permision to completely fuck up Jobs life? what the fuck.

my point here isn't to get you all giving me explinations of this passage as i don't worry about it, what i know is the truth of Jesus Christ and i hold my faith in him and the promise he gives.

My point instead is that God really is beyond our comprehension even with his help when we do fully comprehend we have found all perpose in our life and reached the end goal that we strive for as mentioned by Paul, upon reaching this goal we find ourselves completely dead and instead christ living in us, a state of perfection striven towards but i have never met anyone to atain it in this life, but instead we are promised to stand in glory at the resurection dressed in white and all that... (but again this is my understanding)

so really with such lack of true understanding each denomination is only scratching at the real truth of God so wether we are catholic or methodist or penticostal or any denomination we must not judge each other we are all brothers in christ, remember Jesus' prayer in John 17, that his church be united, we need to join in this prayer and work towards this vision not atack each other,

so why the fuck am i reading posts about "Catholics" describing how many things they have wrong, we are all sinners, and none of us have the perfect truth or we would no longer be sinners but standing sharing in the complete glory of christ.

 

May I ask, aside from eternal salvation, living after death in some other form, eternal happiness in said afterlife, what do you get out of God, in the now. As in this reality, as in this realm of existence. What does God give you? Please save abstractions that can be defined and explained by means other than God.

 

ok that has fuck all to do with the topic so move it some where else and i will answer your question.

 

peppy dude!
dou think its right for u to swaer so much!
if u want to b an example of chrsit fist begin with ure language!
how we live needs to b in line with gods word,if were contradicting it by the way we live then how can we expect ppl to take us seriously?
just a tohught?
love n peace
XXXXX

 

fair coment but it is another part of what i'm saying, it is only mans interpretation that dictates i shouldn't use "swear words" normally a missinturpretaion or out of context quote of James 5:12
"Above all, my brothers, do not swear–not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned."

this is clearly about oaths, not using words deemed "wrong" by society that actualy are just words that show emphasis.

to be an example of christ it is improtant not to judge others. but you are right about the contradictions, thus "Judge not lest be judged your self".

i'm not trying to be harsh here but it is things like this that is separating the curch farther from it's self, and if the bretheren aren't even close to each other then we are definately not close to society and no wonder people call us hypocrits, no wonder people can't relate, it's cuase we have shit relations.

 

god intendef for us all to have good relationships.....i dont liek the devitions between the churches either,im just asking do u think god tihnks it right for u to swear/curse?
the anweres dont jsut lye in the bibel but in gods wisdom

 

it may not be right for him to swear, but its not wrong to. if i hit myself with a hammer and say fuck instead of ow how is that something against god. its just a word, and something people really need to get over. words like fuck are generally used for emphasis, big deal. and what is gods wisdom? with the exception of the bible you have no other example of it.. or do u and im just stupid

 

gods wisdom is shared through knowing god,gods wisdom is not limited to just the bible.
and no it does not mean that u are stupid,this is something in which ppl can receive through alot of time with god and learning things from his as he shows u

 

well i spent 4years as a christian and all i found was a deteriorating family, a suicidal personal state and a disbelief in god (and a hatred towards parts of christianity, formed by the school that forced it on me, although thats gone now)

 

yeah i went to a school who forced it upon me....and i really did hav a h8 fro god,well not so much of a h8 fro him but i thought that he dint give a crapo about wot hpnsd in my life because bad things happened to me and my familly......as i grew up adn i began to understand that gods not up there planning bad thigs to happen to me to test me,i began to relaise that it was because of the bad choices man had made and i had suffered the consequences of it.
for a long while wen i was inbetween the age of 13 and 15 i dabbled with different kinds of religions.....i found meditation helped me to stop gtting angry,but it was only a momentary satisfaction.....i always thugh of god and christianity to be a religion,and thats not what i wanted.
but later on in my life i found something that has completed me,has satisfied that hunger,it was god,nto religion or legalism,but god,it wasnt the church but god!
his love was enough for me.

 

i sway closer to the ideal that god is just a concept, not actually real.. although i dont deny any possibility.. im not 100% sure what that makes me on a term basis.. i figured agnostic although im closer to atheist than theist.. someone on heres good with the strong/weak definitions...
as far as i see is, wheres the proof.. when i was on a landslide and at my lowest point (at the time) and all i asked was for a little help or for just something to be good, and everything just got worse.. why was i wasting so much time hoping for help..

 

if anyones life has been on a landslide its mine,but w cant blame god fro these things,its life,things happen in life that we cannot avoid sometimes,it does not mean god was in heaven plotting sumfin against us,its how we deal with these things that are important.i cud go on about all the bad things that has happened in my life,and altohugh im young,it has been alot,but wats important is that wen i was in the moist troublesoe part of my life,wen i was goin to give up on life(quite literaly)
i called on god......and not really expecting it,because i dindnt fully believe that he wud do anything and wasnt entirely sure that he excisted,he did something,at the time i dint understand it,but i knew that i had experienced a touch from god,that was enough for me to get up and start tryin to put my life in2 his hands instead of relyin on another human bein(who always seemed to betray me and let me down)
i dont need to know wot ahs happened in ure life,and maybe u dont need to knwo wat happened in mine.but wat i knwo is that god was the only tihng that that gave my life a purpose,and lookin 5 years on from the day i descided i was gona let him help me,my life has turned totaly around.
i do know wot it feels like to b wanting a helping hand,wenever i wanted sumfin to hold on2,the person wud either leave me or i would dobt it.in my desperation god found me,and i thank him so much for that!........i guess u cud say proof is in the pudding!
me,if u knew me,and how my life has turned around because of god,then that wud b proof,proof isnt jsut in the bible,to beleive the bible u ahv2 have faith,witohut faith u cannot proove........god does not need to prove himself,but wen a person trusts and has faith,he makes himself known to then despite anything that has happened in theyre life or any feeling of worthlesness,god takes a person jsut as they are.

 

well no, you wouldnt be proof, ive seen many peoples lives turn around "because of god", but you did prove the point i was getting at.. you tell of how when you were at the most troublesome part of your life you called on him, and he did something. when i needed him most there wasnt a sign of him to be seen. everything continued just how it was, for years in fact. and im still pulling myself out. i took a scalpel to my arm not long ago actually.. gods never had part in my life, although of course youll say you dont know it but he has and ill say proof? and it really just comes down to faith, which i have none of anymore.

 

if u dont want god and wont alow him neer u,he wont step on areas on ure life u dont want him to b on.god is a gentlemen,he does not go against the desisions of a person.
all i can really say is that i knwo he did this for me,and if hel do it for one person he will do it for many,but wat u hav2 understand is that god jsut didnt barge in2 my life,i shouted at him to show himself,it wasnt a big booming voice from the sky,or an angel appearing at the side of my bed,btu jsut suddenly beinb overwhelmed by peace.
sometimes even to me it feels that god is not there,but it is not because he isnt,and its not because he has distanced himself for me,but just that i ahv distanced myself from him and have not spent my time with him as i should do,its a like a friendship,it cannot be maintained without communication.
u may not ahve any faith anymore,but that does not mean that u cannot give god another try.faith is sometihng that grows,even if u hav faith the size of a mustard seed it can grow.
if ure ever confussed i want some answers,u can PM me if u like,im not gona say i know everything,i am still ona learning cerve,but if u wanted to talk abut things,and dint want every1 to see.......well feel free im all ears!

 

you have no faith in satan anymore,you cant actually be saying theres enough reason for you to give him another try is there?

 

yes because satan does not give life.
satns plans are to deceive.
and i wasnt telling u to,i was just saying,jsut because u ahv no faith anymore
it does not mean that u cannot go back IF u desired to

 

thats the satan, implored by christianity. of course he is portrayed like that. with every good entity must be an evil one.

 

ive felt the spirit of satan on my life,and i know that it is a spirit that i dot desire to have in my life.